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#1475942 - 01/07/10 09:50 PM Re: RIP Brody and Top [Re: trapper2]
vargy49 Offline
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Registered: 02/28/05
Posts: 1318
Loc: iowa city iowa
Mike I agree with tapper. Nothing against you. I know you are doing your job. and a fine job at that!!I think the public needs to see!! Just my 2 cents!!

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#1477188 - 01/08/10 07:47 PM Re: RIP Brody and Top [Re: vargy49]
trailhound Offline
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Registered: 04/04/03
Posts: 377
Loc: Western MN
Mike, no hard feelings to you at all,think you do a great job here. Just sometimes with the whole truth could be shown for what it is. I know your hands are somewhat tied, thats ok. Sorry if I rufferd your feather, no harm intended
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#1477590 - 01/08/10 11:27 PM Re: RIP Brody and Top [Re: trailhound]
mikegranger Offline
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Registered: 11/17/01
Posts: 4057
Loc: Lewistown, Mt USA
No problems at all here guys. It's all good. thumbup
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#1478406 - 01/09/10 06:23 PM Re: RIP Brody and Top [Re: emeraldterriers1]
cfishman Offline
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Registered: 09/25/09
Posts: 86
Loc: Nebraska
Originally Posted By: emeraldterriers1
Originally Posted By: cfishman
From a fellow houndsman, sorry for your loss. I would be raging a war against wolves about ringt now if it would have happened to me.


guys that really sucks. i feel for your loss, i read a good saying on here a while back...shoot, shovel, shut up. i personally would be a very opportunistic hunter.



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#1478755 - 01/09/10 10:58 PM Re: RIP Brody and Top [Re: cfishman]
HCS Offline
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Registered: 03/25/07
Posts: 529
Loc: NW Montana
I don't want this post to turn into what should and shouldn't be posted on here. I just wanted this to get out and show people that there is starting to get a serious problem with wolves in our area and get this story out.

Sorry Mike.

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#1478849 - 01/10/10 12:30 AM Re: RIP Brody and Top [Re: HCS]
elks Offline
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Registered: 02/28/03
Posts: 3243
Loc: Central WY
Man extremely sorry to hear this unfortunately the world today sucks.
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#1478934 - 01/10/10 06:57 AM Re: RIP Brody and Top [Re: elks]
trailhound Offline
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Registered: 04/04/03
Posts: 377
Loc: Western MN
It can be hard enough to get you dogs in shape and then this happens. Well we lost two dogs this fall that just up and lost weight and died. Vet can't fugure it out. Really hurts when we loose one of our own.....
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#1485089 - 01/15/10 01:00 PM Re: RIP Brody and Top [Re: trailhound]
Juanjo Offline
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Registered: 09/23/09
Posts: 662
Loc: TEXAS
HCS,

Sorry to hear about Brody and Top, I can't even imagine what a mauled up pups look like, its a bone chilling story without a doubt, Wolves are stategic hunters, they have killed man, mans best friend, game, pets.. when is society going to open their eyes... I agree with emeraldterriers1.. just my .02

again sorry for your loss
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#1485313 - 01/15/10 05:57 PM Re: RIP Brody and Top [Re: trapper2]
killcoyotes Offline
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Registered: 11/14/07
Posts: 475
Loc: rochester, ny
that really sucks. they should have never re-introduce the wolves back, i`m so glad we don`t have them around here.
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#1485463 - 01/15/10 08:11 PM Re: RIP Brody and Top [Re: killcoyotes]
Duane@ssu Offline
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Registered: 04/24/01
Posts: 4095
Loc: Gods Country
I've dealt with them other places, and thought here I wouldn't have to worry about them, but now there are breedin pairs in OR.
Kc, I hope they don't get into your country, but it seems like its just a matter of time before they will be everywhere.
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#1487745 - 01/17/10 09:26 PM Re: RIP Brody and Top [Re: Duane@ssu]
pkhunter Offline
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Registered: 01/30/07
Posts: 152
Loc: UPUPSTATE N.Y.
i too am sorry about your dogs.What would happen legally if a dog or dogs killed a wolf ?would you as the owner be charged? PK

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#1488744 - 01/18/10 06:48 PM Re: RIP Brody and Top [Re: pkhunter]
mikegranger Offline
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Registered: 11/17/01
Posts: 4057
Loc: Lewistown, Mt USA
That's a good question Pk. I haven't looked into it since wolves can be hunted now. Before the state took over management, they were an experimental endangered species. The laws weren't in favor of the hound hunter then.

I know if a lion gets into your farm animals, they can be shot, immediately followed by a call to the game warden. He'll come and take the lion but that's it. I see no difference between a farm animal and a hunting dog.
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#1488775 - 01/18/10 07:03 PM Re: RIP Brody and Top [Re: mikegranger]
idratherbehunting Offline
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Registered: 02/27/09
Posts: 265
Loc: Mora, MN
farm animals are livestock and dogs are companion animals and are for the most part not provided the same protection as livestock.

also if you cast your dogs even on private property and the wolves attack and kill your dogs your SOL at least thats what i was told by a game warden.

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I'm sure you knew the difference between livestock and dogs.


Orson
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Edited by idratherbehunting (01/18/10 07:13 PM)
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#1489203 - 01/18/10 10:49 PM Re: RIP Brody and Top [Re: idratherbehunting]
mikegranger Offline
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Loc: Lewistown, Mt USA
Noun 1. farm animal - any animals kept for use or profit
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#1489285 - 01/18/10 11:51 PM Re: RIP Brody and Top [Re: mikegranger]
idratherbehunting Offline
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Registered: 02/27/09
Posts: 265
Loc: Mora, MN
According to Michigan law, if you see a gray wolf attacking a pet, livestock, etc., you can kill it. But there's a Federal law in place that trumps that. The gray wolf is an endangered species. You can't touch them, except in the defense of human life, but not of a pet or another animal.

I can not find any information on minnesota laws regarding wolf attacks on livestock or dogs.

Orson
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