I was useing a cheap wally world bi-pod and hated it, but then i saw varmint al's homeade sticks and some of the guys here had some ideas so i made my own. I used 2 aluminum pre wrapped garden stakes and castration bands i bought at a farm store cost about $3.00 to make. Ive been using them for 2 seasons and it still works great. Ive made a pair for my brother and 2 of my hunting buddies. Theyre light, sturdy, and already have points at the bottom.