Kenyan-born Obama Interesting...........

Originally Posted By: Evil_LurkerI believe if you have to take any legal steps to "acquire" citizenship, that makes you a naturalized citizen (like Arnold and Kissinger), not a natural born citizen.

Quote:(For birth on or after November 14, 1986, a period of five years physical presence, two after the age of fourteen is required. For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen are required for physical presence in the U.S. to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child.


Obama's mother fails that time restriction if his birth date is accurate. Snopes says it is accurate, right?
If he were actually born in Kenya, it sounds like he's an illegal alien, according to your link.

Quote:Stanley Ann Dunham was born on November 29, 1942,
Quote:On August 4, 1961, at the age of 18, Dunham gave birth to her first child, Barack Obama II. Friends in Washington State recall her visiting with her new baby in 1961. By January 1962, she had enrolled at the University of Washington, and was living as a single mother in the Capitol Hill neighborhood of Seattle with her son while her husband continued his studies in Hawaii.

That's straight from Wikipedia, the liberal's Bible.
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This is following along with the theory that Obama’s parents weren’t married at the time of his birth. The rules you posted are for married parents when 1 parent isn’t a citizen and the child is born out of the US . The rules for an unwed mother are different and listed lower on the same page.

Quote:Birth Abroad Out-of-Wedlock to a U.S. Citizen Mother: A child born abroad out-of-wedlock to a U.S. citizen mother may acquire U.S. citizenship under Section 301(g) INA, as made applicable by Section 309(c) INA if the mother was a U.S. citizen at the time of the child's birth, and if the mother had previously been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year.
 
Originally Posted By: Stu Farishthe main thing that I keep coming back to is that his attorney could simply appear in court & present the document to the judge. Case dismissed.
the case has already been dismissed.
 
If you are talking about Barnett VS Obama it was dismissed today. There are a couple of cases pending but I don't think they are being heard at this time.
 
Originally Posted By: Rim_RunnerOriginally Posted By: Evil_LurkerI believe if you have to take any legal steps to "acquire" citizenship, that makes you a naturalized citizen (like Arnold and Kissinger), not a natural born citizen.

Quote:(For birth on or after November 14, 1986, a period of five years physical presence, two after the age of fourteen is required. For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen are required for physical presence in the U.S. to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child.


Obama's mother fails that time restriction if his birth date is accurate. Snopes says it is accurate, right?
If he were actually born in Kenya, it sounds like he's an illegal alien, according to your link.

Quote:Stanley Ann Dunham was born on November 29, 1942,
Quote:On August 4, 1961, at the age of 18, Dunham gave birth to her first child, Barack Obama II. Friends in Washington State recall her visiting with her new baby in 1961. By January 1962, she had enrolled at the University of Washington, and was living as a single mother in the Capitol Hill neighborhood of Seattle with her son while her husband continued his studies in Hawaii.

That's straight from Wikipedia, the liberal's Bible.
wink.gif




This is following along with the theory that Obama’s parents weren’t married at the time of his birth. The rules you posted are for married parents when 1 parent isn’t a citizen and the child is born out of the US . The rules for an unwed mother are different and listed lower on the same page.

Quote:Birth Abroad Out-of-Wedlock to a U.S. Citizen Mother: A child born abroad out-of-wedlock to a U.S. citizen mother may acquire U.S. citizenship under Section 301(g) INA, as made applicable by Section 309(c) INA if the mother was a U.S. citizen at the time of the child's birth, and if the mother had previously been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year.


If everything you say is true then why won't he just prove up and get it over with. What he is doing doesn't make sense, of course everything he is doing doesn't make sense.
 
Quote:If everything you say is true

It's not something I said, it's straight copy and paste from (1) Wikipedia and (2) Rimmy's link.

The unquoted parts are just my ignorant opinion. they may be incorrect, but I based it on what is actually known (or try to). There's obviously a gray area on exactly what factors define a natural born citizen, and no public records of Obama's history or actual citizenship status.

A jpg. of a COLB, that could be obtained in Hawaii regardless of actual birthplace based on the statement of a family member, doesn't prove anything.

Spending $1.7 million dollars to lawyers to resist the release of actual documentation that would prove/disprove the current story raises a few questions in my mind, though.
 
Originally Posted By: javafour

During Obama’s campaign for the 2008 presidential election, he portrayed his mother as a conservative girl from Kansas


compared to the bamster, she probably would be considered a conserative today
 
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