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#1284033 - 05/01/09 12:48 AM Help for a beginner
Gomer746 Offline
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Registered: 05/01/09
Posts: 79
Loc: Blue Jay, CA
Im looking to get into trapping in the Michigan UP this fall/winter. I have access to a large chunk of land and was going to try to target coons, fox, and coyote. This area has a hardwood stand, a stream, upland aspens, and everything in between. I was wondering what I should get as far as equipment, I would like to try one trap size, but need some advise. I read that I could use 4 coil, 1.75 coil traps for all the species. Does anyone have any more tips or advise? Thanks.
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#1284034 - 05/01/09 08:47 AM Re: Help for a beginner [Re: Gomer746]
hawkeye68 Offline
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Registered: 04/25/09
Posts: 10
Loc: maine
1.75 will work for coyote i like a bigger trap but 1.75 will work
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#1284035 - 05/01/09 11:49 PM Re: Help for a beginner [Re: hawkeye68]
Gomer746 Offline
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Registered: 05/01/09
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Loc: Blue Jay, CA
Thanks, Im just trying to keep it simple to start out.
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#1284036 - 05/02/09 09:02 AM Re: Help for a beginner [Re: Gomer746]
Jeff Erwin Offline
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Registered: 01/27/05
Posts: 834
Loc: greenville, Ohio
get some 1.5's for the coons or your have problems. the 1.75's wil work for the k9's. you have to guide a lot with yotes to get them on the pan of a 1.75 but its do able

what ever you do, make sure your traps are staked solid.if ya need help with the guiding let me know, I'll get ya some pics to help ya out.
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#1284037 - 05/03/09 10:20 AM Re: Help for a beginner [Re: Jeff Erwin]
Bryan8 Offline
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Registered: 01/26/09
Posts: 1548
Loc: New york
I like 1.5 coils for coon and fox. Get some 2's for yotes.
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#1284038 - 05/04/09 10:32 PM Re: Help for a beginner [Re: Bryan8]
Gomer746 Offline
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Registered: 05/01/09
Posts: 79
Loc: Blue Jay, CA
thanks, the only reason i wanted to stick with one "all purpose trap" was that i could order a dozen or so because of being a little money tight, thanks for the advise though.

Help with guiding would be great, also where would you recommend to get traps from?
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#1284039 - 05/05/09 08:54 PM Re: Help for a beginner [Re: Gomer746]
TRAPPERKRIS Offline
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Registered: 08/24/05
Posts: 52
Loc: FALLON, NV
Mr. ASA LENON is the man to get in touch with. He resides in gulliver michigan. Never ordered any traps from him BUT his lures are top notch. I know he frequents trapperman.com.

chris from nv.

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#1284040 - 05/05/09 09:18 PM Re: Help for a beginner [Re: TRAPPERKRIS]
tntrapper Offline
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Registered: 10/08/08
Posts: 1342
Loc: tenn
look a 1 1/2 will hold coon,fox,bobcats,yotes, easy,, i use victor 1 1/2 softcatch with number 2 music wire springs put on them... i have had pullouts but that is rare. will bigger traps with coon is that they will bite at the trap and get there toes .... i have held 40's and 50 pound yotes in 1 1/2

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#1284041 - 05/08/09 08:11 PM Re: Help for a beginner [Re: Gomer746]
Jeff Erwin Offline
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Registered: 01/27/05
Posts: 834
Loc: greenville, Ohio
Quote:

thanks, the only reason i wanted to stick with one "all purpose trap" was that i could order a dozen or so because of being a little money tight, thanks for the advise though.

Help with guiding would be great, also where would you recommend to get traps from?




these guys would be closer to you then Asa, and they are reasonly priced. I get a lot of equipment from them and they are top notch.

http://www.nwtrappers.com/
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#1284042 - 05/08/09 10:13 PM Re: Help for a beginner [Re: Gomer746]
Jeff Erwin Offline
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Registered: 01/27/05
Posts: 834
Loc: greenville, Ohio
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Help with guiding would be great, also where would you recommend to get traps from?





All I do for guiding is: I sift my dirt over the trap and get it packed in solid, then I take 3 of the bigger, about dime to quarter size dirt clogs or and put them in a V position in the pattern, I put one at each lever, on the side closest to the hole, then I put one just offset from the dog closes to you, almost on the edge of the pattern, then I sift a final covering over my pattern. there should be enough dirt over everything so the clogs look like they are naturally sticking up out of the ground. you don't want to cover them so they are hid, a K9 doesn't like to step on something sticking up any more then you so they will step over the clog at the dog and hit the pan sqare because the other 2 clogs will keep them from side stepping the pan. I hope this helps, if I get a chance, I'll try to get pics posted later this week.

you can also do the V thing with small twigs, or if your in a corn field, corn stalk pieces will work. all your doing is telling Mr Songdog where he WILL put his foot , not where he thinks he wants to put it
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#1284043 - 05/19/09 06:36 AM Re: Help for a beginner [Re: Jeff Erwin]
Gomer746 Offline
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Registered: 05/01/09
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Loc: Blue Jay, CA
thanks for all the help
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#1284044 - 05/25/09 08:46 AM Re: Help for a beginner [Re: Gomer746]
muskrat30 Offline
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Registered: 03/03/02
Posts: 3124
Loc: Wisconsin
Hey Gomer, I don't want to be a fly in the ointment but have you read the MI trapping regulations? I'm talking about the part as to how it relates to WI residents, if you are one? This may not apply, if so pardon me. There are a few possible gray areas. Maybe even as an 'assistant' to a MI resident? Private land is also easier to deal with.

Anyway, coons are easy to catch. The others a little more effort. I'd at least put a mink set along the creek & if any open water look to beaver & muskrat. A fisher/bobcat cubby in thick cover is another idea, it will also catch coons. With a coyote set you would eventually have a wolf snap the trap, you will never hold one in a 1.75. Beaver meat makes a good predator bait.
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#1284045 - 05/25/09 10:46 AM Re: Help for a beginner [Re: muskrat30]
Jeff Erwin Offline
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Registered: 01/27/05
Posts: 834
Loc: greenville, Ohio
With a coyote set you would eventually have a wolf snap the trap, you will never hold one in a 1.75.

Thats a good thing, it keeps you from having to release the dang thing, plus it educates it to stay way from your sets. sounds like win/win for both the wolf and trapper.


But I would hate to burst you bubble on the 1.75 holding a wolf. I have seen pics of a wolf in a #2 and there isn't that much difference between a 1.75 and a 2
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#1284046 - 05/25/09 10:54 PM Re: Help for a beginner [Re: Jeff Erwin]
Gomer746 Offline
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Registered: 05/01/09
Posts: 79
Loc: Blue Jay, CA
Im going to school at Michigan Tech, so as a student I qualify for resident status, but your heads up on that. Im on CFR land, know the real owner, not to many wolves, but dont really want to have to release on if caught.
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#1284047 - 05/28/09 02:46 PM Re: Help for a beginner [Re: Gomer746]
muskrat30 Offline
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Registered: 03/03/02
Posts: 3124
Loc: Wisconsin
Great, sounds like your covered.
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