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#1244879 - 03/11/09 06:33 AM .223 Wynde vs. 5.56
Seeking_Coyotes Offline
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Is there a difference between these two calibers? I want to get the most accurate gun for yotes and I saw the RRA Coyote Carbine I am ordering from a dealer is in 5.56 instead of .223. Will I be able to shoot the .223 round in the 5.56 chamber as I would if it was chambered in the .223 instead of the 5.56? It has the .75 moa guarantee.

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#1244880 - 03/11/09 07:53 AM Re: .223 Wynde vs. 5.56 [Re: Seeking_Coyotes]
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Wylde chamber??

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#1244881 - 03/11/09 08:00 AM Re: .223 Wynde vs. 5.56 [Re: Seeking_Coyotes]
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Is there a difference between these two calibers?




No. The Wylde is just a .223 with a chamber cut with more leade so you can shoot the longer bullets without hitting the rifling.

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I want to get the most accurate gun for yotes...




Get the .223 chamber, then. That Wylde won't relly do you any good unless you get a 1:9 or faster twist and shoot 70+ gr. bullets.
Most people are going to tell you not to shoot 5.56 NATO ammo through a .223 chambered rifle. It's pretty much all FMJ to comply with the Geneva Convention, so it's no good for hunting to start with.
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#1244882 - 03/11/09 09:31 AM Re: .223 Wynde vs. 5.56 [Re: Evil_Lurker]
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Here is a copy / paste from the Rock River Arms web site:

"The .223 Wylde chamber was designed as a match chambering for semi-automatic rifles. It will accomodate both .223 Rem and 5.56mm NATO ammunition. It is relieved in the case body to aid in extraction and features a shorter throat for improved accuracy."

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#1244883 - 03/11/09 09:45 AM Re: .223 Wynde vs. 5.56 [Re: sharkathmi]
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...and features a shorter throat for improved accuracy




I believe that is actually incorrect.
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#1244884 - 03/11/09 10:43 AM Re: .223 Wynde vs. 5.56 [Re: Evil_Lurker]
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Quote:

Quote:

...and features a shorter throat for improved accuracy




I believe that is actually incorrect.




which part?

the fact that it has a shorter throat?

or

that it improves accuracy?

If I am not mistaken a shorter throat would improve accuracy, as bullet jump would be lessened. this also allows for bullets to be seated just short of magazine length which would place the bullet closer to the lands if the throat is shorter
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#1244885 - 03/11/09 10:51 AM Re: .223 Wynde vs. 5.56 [Re: Evil_Lurker]
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Quote:

Quote:

...and features a shorter throat for improved accuracy




I believe that is actually incorrect.





It is incorrect...

The throat is longer to tale some of the longer military ammo.

SO it can't be short and long at the same time.

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#1244886 - 03/11/09 11:18 AM Re: .223 Wynde vs. 5.56 [Re: CatShooter]
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Here's a chart of the various reamers. Study the differences. There is a lot of
mis-information about ar15 chamberings. The wylde is made to shoot 5.56
safely but retain the .223 accuracy.


Edited by Jack Roberts (03/11/09 10:08 PM)

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#1244887 - 03/11/09 11:30 AM Re: .223 Wynde vs. 5.56 [Re: bigwheeler]
buckhalljr Offline
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JUST AMAZING..

I was trying to figure out how to get this same pdf file posted here and gave up. Looks like you figured out how to do it.

Great minds think alike, some are just more intelligent!

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#1244888 - 03/11/09 12:20 PM Re: .223 Wynde vs. 5.56 [Re: buckhalljr]
odawgp Offline
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I stand corrected

good post bigwheeler
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#1244889 - 03/11/09 12:21 PM Re: .223 Wynde vs. 5.56 [Re: CatShooter]
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Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

...and features a shorter throat for improved accuracy




I believe that is actually incorrect.





It is incorrect...

The throat is longer to tale some of the longer military ammo.

SO it can't be short and long at the same time.

.




You are incorrect. The Wylde throat IS shorter.
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#1244890 - 03/11/09 01:00 PM Re: .223 Wynde vs. 5.56 [Re: 2muchgun]
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Cat--The NATO throat is longer to take the longer military ammo. You know NATO=Military. Get it?

Military ammo has NOTHING to do with why Bill Wylde designed the chamber. It was designed as a MATCH chamber. Less slop, tighter tolerances, shorter throat, less bullet jump, = greater accuracy.

Period.......
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#1244891 - 03/11/09 01:59 PM Re: .223 Wynde vs. 5.56 [Re: 2muchgun]
bigwheeler Offline
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Actually the wylde has the longest throat second only to the 223 match. It
also has a wider base, body, neck and shoulder diameter than the nato.

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#1244892 - 03/11/09 02:16 PM Re: .223 Wynde vs. 5.56 [Re: 2muchgun]
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You are incorrect. The Wylde throat IS shorter.




Really? Then that chart is wrong, since it says the freebore length of the Wylde is .0619, the .223 Rem. is .250 and the 5.56 NATO is .0566
Or can't I read?
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#1244893 - 03/11/09 03:05 PM Re: .223 Wynde vs. 5.56 [Re: Evil_Lurker]
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What chart?
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