I got my first Remington rifle over 50 years ago, and have had a bunch of Remingtons ever since. Currently, there are a total of 10 Remington firearms in my gun safe. Three are 22's, two are shotguns, and the other five are bolt action centerfire rifles. I have never had one problem with any of them, and can't understand why people are always wanting to dump on Remington. Now, I am sure, that with as many guns as they manufacture each year, that there are going to be some lemons. But, it is that way with other firearms manufacturers, as well. It would not be cost-effective to make a gun today, as the companies could 50 years ago. The time and workmanship, that went into the fit and finish of those guns, would simply cost so much today, tht customers would not pay that much for a factory made gun. However, todays guns, are made out of better materials, and made to tighter tolerances than ever before. I happen to think that this makes them more accurate. From what I read on here, and on other hunting sites, the basis of this argument about Remington, stems from whether Remington, or Savage is the better rifle. I am sure Savage makes some very accurate rifles, at least, that's what everybody says. Well, my Remingtons are accurate rifles too, and so are those of other guys I know. Sure, you may have to tweak them some, as you have to do to almost any rifle to squeeze the best accuracy out of it. I have handled quite a few of the Savages, and personally, I don't like them. The stocks are clunky, the action is rough, and that barrel nut is about the ugliest thing I've ever seen. But, if you like them, then that's great....it's your dollar to spend as you like. And, I suspect that may be the reason some people are running down the Remingtons. Some people will always buy the less expensive product, regardless of what that is, and then proceed to bash the brands that cost more. I guess they do this, in hopes of justifying their purchase. I don't care what brand of firearms you buy, that is your right to buy what you want, but don't get out here and run down a brand that might cost a little more and try to make people believe that brand is not any good. There are far too many of us, that own that brand and use them, that know better. Maybe you can take some of Obama's stimulus money, and upgrade to a Remington....lol.