Well, I retract what I said about bush being bad for the economy

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Just wait. Our Country will be seeing the worst President and Administration in it's history shortly.

 
I'm not suprised that DR blames everything on Bush when it was the likes of Chucky Schummer, Harry Reid, and Barney the F^G Frank that was protecting Fanny and Freddy May.

Any informed person knows that if Freddie and Fannie didn't write a bunch of subprime and even NINJA (No Income, No Job or Assets)loans we never would have gone down the socialist red brick road. To make matters worse the banks were also forced to go into the subprime mortgage business that fanny and freddie masterd or be threatned with being prosecuted under the community reinvestment act that Carted started and clinton fine tuned to the point that got us into this mess we have today. It doesn't matter that rabbit doen't know that the bush administrating went to congress several times long before this fiasco warning congress that these lending practices need to end. It also doesn't matter that Greenspan warned congress that the lending going on at fannie and freddy would have reprocussuions that could have serious reprocussions throughout the entire financial communtiy. Despite Greenspans warning, the above liberal democratic congressmen and others protected fannie and freddie which is the basis for this fiasco.

What really galls me is the same idiots that caused this mess, are real quick to blame it on failed economic policies of the bush administration. Also, these same idiots are quick to get in front of a camera to say they are going to save our A$$ by giving our money away and passing new legislation that will regulate the evil folks on wall street. 60 minutes last Sunday had the nerve to call Barney F^G the smartest man on the hill.

DR: you need to study this issue a little further before you just simply blame bush. That line is getting old because you have worn it out.
 
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I'm not suprised that DR blames everything on Bush when it was the likes of Chucky Schummer, Harry Reid, and Barney the F^G Frank that was protecting Fanny and Freddy May.

Any informed person knows that if Freddie and Fannie didn't write a bunch of subprime and even NINJA (No Income, No Job or Assets)loans we never would have gone down the socialist red brick road. To make matters worse the banks were also forced to go into the subprime mortgage business that fanny and freddie masterd or be threatned with being prosecuted under the community reinvestment act that Carted started and clinton fine tuned to the point that got us into this mess we have today. It doesn't matter that rabbit doen't know that the bush administrating went to congress several times long before this fiasco warning congress that these lending practices need to end. It also doesn't matter that Greenspan warned congress that the lending going on at fannie and freddy would have reprocussuions that could have serious reprocussions throughout the entire financial communtiy. Despite Greenspans warning, the above liberal democratic congressmen and others protected fannie and freddie which is the basis for this fiasco.

What really galls me is the same idiots that caused this mess, are real quick to blame it on failed economic policies of the bush administration. Also, these same idiots are quick to get in front of a camera to say they are going to save our A$$ by giving our money away and passing new legislation that will regulate the evil folks on wall street. 60 minutes last Sunday had the nerve to call Barney F^G the smartest man on the hill.

DR: you need to study this issue a little further before you just simply blame bush. That line is getting old because you have worn it out.



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I agree greg223, it is everyones problem; and the gov caused it. I simply named the above three idiots because they were spearheading the move to protect fannie and freddy. They didn't do it alone. They received a lot of help from others in congress. If the banks were left alone they would have continued to give loans out according the the three C's of lending: Collaterial, Character, and Cash. In other words does the loan have good Collaterial. Is the person of good character, and does he have the money to pay it back. It was the government that stuck its nose into the banking business, and that is what is driving the current problem. BTW: Their are still many other types of loans that haven't yet adjusted. It will be a couple of years and a few more trillon dollars to get us out of this mess before it is all over. I hate this because most of my assets are in real estate that i've owned years before the markets went crazy. I'm still right side up, and have a long way to go before I'll be upside down fortunately. I have a rental going vacant next month, so I'll be busy fixing that one up and wont be able to go calling. It sure does hurt to not go calling with gas being cheap.
 
Well now Aznative, here's another line for ya that you're sure to love, "if the shoe fits wear it" Now, how many times was that again that ole bush went before congress and what did he go for exactly? Lets have a look see shall we?
Could it be?


WASHINGTON — The Bush administration backed off proposed crackdowns on no-money-down, interest-only mortgages years before the economy collapsed, buckling to pressure from some of the same banks that have now failed. It ignored remarkably prescient warnings that foretold the financial meltdown, according to an Associated Press review of regulatory documents.

"Expect fallout, expect foreclosures, expect horror stories," California mortgage lender Paris Welch wrote to U.S. regulators in January 2006, about one year before the housing implosion cost her a job.

Bowing to aggressive lobbying _ along with assurances from banks that the troubled mortgages were OK _ regulators delayed action for nearly one year. By the time new rules were released late in 2006, the toughest of the proposed provisions were gone and the meltdown was under way.

"These mortgages have been considered more safe and sound for portfolio lenders than many fixed rate mortgages," David Schneider, home loan president of Washington Mutual, told federal regulators in early 2006. Two years later, WaMu became the largest bank failure in U.S. history.

The administration's blind eye to the impending crisis is emblematic of a philosophy that trusted market forces and discounted the need for government intervention in the economy. Its belief ironically has ushered in the most massive government intervention since the 1930s.

"We're going to be feeling the effects of the regulators' failure to address these mortgages for the next several years," said Kevin Stein of the California Reinvestment Coalition, who warned regulators to tighten lending rules before it was too late.

Many of the banks that fought to undermine the proposals by some regulators are now either out of business or accepting billions in federal aid to recover from a mortgage crisis they insisted would never come. Many executives remain in high-paying jobs, even after their assurances were proved false.

In 2005, faced with ominous signs the housing market was in jeopardy, bank regulators proposed new guidelines for banks writing risky loans. Today, in the midst of the worst housing recession in a generation, the proposal reads like a list of what-ifs:
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DR: you need to study this issue a little further before you just simply blame bush. That line is getting old because you have worn it out.

 
The bush administration tried to stop it. Greenspan tried to stop it. McCain sponsored a bill that tried to stop it. The problem is that congress was protecting them because they were getting campain donations from fanny and freddie. Harry Reid was the #1 recepient. Ombama was number 2. You seem to blame the people that tried to stop it instead of those who were protecting these sleeze bags
 
But, the same sleeze bags you're protecting were having a field day w/our moolah $$ by not vetoing a single spending bill, I.e.deficit. bushco spent $$ like a drunken sailor! Why should he be concerned w/impending danger when it comes to money or the lack thereof?



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The bush administration tried to stop it. Greenspan tried to stop it. McCain sponsored a bill that tried to stop it. The problem is that congress was protecting them because they were getting campain donations from fanny and freddie. Harry Reid was the #1 recepient. Ombama was number 2. You seem to blame the people that tried to stop it instead of those who were protecting these sleeze bags

 
C'mon daddy,no one will take you seriously when you link to The Huffington Post.Please tell me you can find legitimate sites for info. If its a struggle let me know and I'll point you the right direction.
 
i didn't get a shot at a coyote today it was the bushes fault. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif
huh /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif i blamed the bushes and i still don't have that coyote /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
what exactly do you gain by blaming bushes?
 
The Right and the left were just holding up numbers to hide the effects of the global economy. The numbers finally hit home. CRASH. and down we go.
 
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The Right and the left were just holding up numbers to hide the effects of the global economy. The numbers finally hit home. CRASH. and down we go.



I think you got it right there.
 
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