Can the Media be fixed?

Historically US newspapers have always been biased. Back during the Revolution they were really, really blatant. The thing is that back in the 18th and 19th Centuries they were open about it--they didn't feign objectivity.

Most news now comes from the Associated Press (AP) wire service and it is VERY liberally slanted.

Tax-funded NPR (radio) and PBS (TV) are mega liberal and, IMO, should be no longer publicly funded. If they have merit then let them sell advertising.

I rely on Fox News (TV), AM talk radio for news/news analysis, and the Wall St Journal, Investor's Business Daily, and The Washington Times for newspapers and then I also read several internet sites, like newsmax.com and worldnetdaily.com. I just ignore most of the rest.
 
Yesterday and today the liberal media started to admit that they do not know exactly who Barry Obama is. That's funny you can send a dozen investigators up to Alaska to dig through trash but not ask one question. "Exactly who are you Barry Obama?" I don't even watch the evening news to find out the weather. I will be suprised in the morning either way.
 
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Did I dispute the fact? I disputed returning to the stone ages because someone didnt get their way.




This sounds like you've got post election remorse. So now you are suggesting that YOUR president-elect is returning to the stone ages because he didn't get his way? Furthermore, do you actually mean that YOUR hero is leading the press/country backwards?

I'm afraid that the censorship of the press does bring back some historical references, but not quite as far back as the stone ages. The last century provides more than enough references of censorship to expose the chosen one's way of thinking. Too bad it's now too late for some people to maybe finally realize just what is going to happen. MI VHNTR
 
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This sounds like you've got post election remorse. So now you are suggesting that YOUR president-elect is returning to the stone ages because he didn't get his way? Futrthermore, do you actually mean that YOUR hero is leading the press/country backwards?



Wow MI VHNTR your comprehension skills stink. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif I think you need to start back at the beginning of this one.

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Also Tommy boy I'll ignore any more of your posts if you promise to ignore mine. You aren't worth the bandwidth.




Oh come on now jumprightinit, first you want to ban all news media, now you want to ignore me. Reminds me of my kids when they dont get their way. They go lock themselves in there room too. Go ahead ignore me, maybe this rock better suits you.
 
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Hey javafour, did I say anything about banning the news media? Just wanted a second opinion.



No, that's not how I read the post /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif
 
Hey Java,

Whats the deal, you guys can't get someone more conservative and gun-owner friendly like Sarah Brady to be a Moderator on here? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif I can't for the life of me understand why this guy is in a leadership position on a pro 2A website like this. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
 
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Hey Java,

Whats the deal, you guys can't get someone more conservative and gun-owner friendly like Sarah Brady to be a Moderator on here? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif I can't for the life of me understand why this guy is in a leadership position on a pro 2A website like this. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif



Hey, hey, hey, hold on there Touch! I know Jeff and Stu are a little Liberal but that's no reason to name call! Sara Brady hasn't done anything so bad as to be compared to those two! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
You know, I've had the same thought as far as the media goes. . . we need to organize a boycott of the networks of the BIASED media. I'm sick of it.

We need the media, don't get me wrong. But report the FACTS.

Ticks me off. Couple of weeks ago one of these anchors was saying how it was their job in the media to report and "Explain" the news. I don't need the news explained to me. I'm not a dummy. If I need something explained, I will personally seek out the reference materials from someone I trust (maybe like somebody with 30 years experience in a certain field, rather than a news anchor with a 4 year journalism degree and no experience in the subject matter which he/she wants to "explain").

Report the facts. Not just want you want to report or what makes good news.

You listen to the media, then we are losing in Afghanistan and Iraq and nothing good is coming from it. Then I talk to good friends who I trust with my life, who have been on the ground in both Iraq and Afghanistan, and they say that we're winning and that we're doing good things. (By the way, both of these friends are going back to Iraq soon, one as a civilian EOD contractor, and the other as a Green Beret Seargent Major, and both have seen combat)

You tell me, who do I believe? The media? Or the combat vets (one of them with the Bronze star with V device and a purple heart)???

Bake
 
No jumprightinit you didnt specifically say ban the media nor abolish the media. Thats what I took from your post which was....

"The only way to hurt them is to boycott their product. Ratings fail, they fail. "

So a failed media implies no media. Maybe poor word usage on my part.
 
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You know, I've had the same thought as far as the media goes. . . we need to organize a boycott of the networks of the BIASED media. I'm sick of it.

We need the media, don't get me wrong. But report the FACTS.

Ticks me off. Couple of weeks ago one of these anchors was saying how it was their job in the media to report and "Explain" the news. I don't need the news explained to me. I'm not a dummy. If I need something explained, I will personally seek out the reference materials from someone I trust (maybe like somebody with 30 years experience in a certain field, rather than a news anchor with a 4 year journalism degree and no experience in the subject matter which he/she wants to "explain").

Report the facts. Not just want you want to report or what makes good news.

You listen to the media, then we are losing in Afghanistan and Iraq and nothing good is coming from it. Then I talk to good friends who I trust with my life, who have been on the ground in both Iraq and Afghanistan, and they say that we're winning and that we're doing good things. (By the way, both of these friends are going back to Iraq soon, one as a civilian EOD contractor, and the other as a Green Beret Seargent Major, and both have seen combat)

You tell me, who do I believe? The media? Or the combat vets (one of them with the Bronze star with V device and a purple heart)???

Bake



So we form a organization like the Socialist do, ie ACORN, ACLU, SDS, CPUSA. Come up with a suitable acronym and guarantee to make bias in the media equal, expose bias whichever way it leans. Think we could get a Gov't Grant to get started? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
 
IF you can actually comprehend what was said, I know it's a big stretch, but I was just replying to your statement. We'll see in the next four years which of us has better comprehension skills. BTW, you're already losing this one and the future is rather bleak.

Now, as far as your comprehension goes, how about this?


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No jumprightinit you didnt specifically say ban the media nor abolish the media. Thats what I took from your post which was....

"The only way to hurt them is to boycott their product. Ratings fail, they fail. "

So a failed media implies no media. Maybe poor word usage on my part.



Wow Tommy Johnson your comprehension skills stink. I think you need to start back at the beginning of this one. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-006.gif MI VHNTR
 
MI VHNTR my bad effort at repeating jumprightinit's initial statement is a far cry from putting jumprightinit's words into my mouth as you did with the following quote...

"So now you are suggesting that YOUR president-elect is returning to the stone ages because he didn't get his way?"

Jumprightinit is the one advocating that we boycott the news media so that they fail and therefore when you turn on your tv at night to get the latest news you get a black screen. I didnt say anything about Obama suggesting we boycott the news media. I guess we are both guilty. You can come back to the front of the class, but dont slip or you'll be sent right back. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
 
The Media did it … the voters are stupid … it’s all about race …. Man I haven’t seen this much whining since the last presidential election. Now the GOP is sounding like a bunch of Dems. When you are ready to take a long look at what happened here are some things to think about. The Republican brand is in free fall. They had a wake up call in ’06 but they gave in to self-deception instead of correction. The GOP needs to clean house and regain the trust of the independents. Their President has a very low approval rating and the VP is even lower. The went from control of Congress to having solid Dem majorities in both houses and yet most of what they have done is spew misinformation, half-truths and out and out lies. The American people aren’t buying it. GWB and the people surrounding him put your party on the ropes and until you regain the confidence of the American people the GOP is headed in a downhill spiral.
 
Here goes, I doubt if it'll do any good though.

I said: "It works for osama obama. Just ask a question that the chosen one doesn't like, or support another candidate, and you are out. The track record proves it. MI VHNTR"


You replied: "Did I dispute the fact? I disputed returning to the stone ages because someone didnt get their way."


I replied: "This sounds like you've got post election remorse. So now you are suggesting that YOUR president-elect is returning to the stone ages because he didn't get his way? Furthermore, do you actually mean that YOUR hero is leading the press/country backwards?

I'm afraid that the censorship of the press does bring back some historical references, but not quite as far back as the stone ages. The last century provides more than enough references of censorship to expose the chosen one's way of thinking. Too bad it's now too late for some people to maybe finally realize just what is going to happen. MI VHNTR"


If you can actually comprehend what I said, which you obviously can't, the quote you referred to was in the form of a question. It put no words into your mouth, just asked a question. You cannot comprehend this, so now anyone that asks you a question puts words into your mouth. LOL! Sounds like the osama spin machine in full spin cycle and the load is quite unbalanced.

BTW, I don't need to get to the front of the class. I earned my college degree years ago. I don't worry about you even being allowed in though. I'm quite sure that you wouldn't meet the entrance requirements, so don't try. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif MI VHNTR
 
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MI VHNTR my bad effort at repeating jumprightinit's initial statement is a far cry from putting jumprightinit's words into my mouth as you did with the following quote...

"So now you are suggesting that YOUR president-elect is returning to the stone ages because he didn't get his way?"

Jumprightinit is the one advocating that we boycott the news media so that they fail and therefore when you turn on your tv at night to get the latest news you get a black screen. I didnt say anything about Obama suggesting we boycott the news media. I guess we are both guilty. You can come back to the front of the class, but dont slip or you'll be sent right back. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif



No, TJ, that's not how it would work and that isn't what he is saying.

It is a free market thing. He is pointing to the market reality that a product (in this case grossly liberally biased news media) which does not sell will be replaced by one that does.

Fox News dominates the ratings, for example, because the market demands it. Liberal media have plunging ratings thus threatening its economic viability. The market will force their owners to offer the public media products that will compete for Fox's market share.

MSNBC attempted to compete by capturing a perceived market for ultra-Liberally biased news reporting and it has pursued that, only it has been a failed strategy as its ratings are dwarfed by Fox's.

Liberal newspapers also have a circulation crisis. There have been recent huge layoffs because what they are selling people aren't buying.

If people don't buy liberal news media then fairer news media will take their places, not blank screens.

The internet and talk radio have also helped break their monopoly and that is one of the reasons Obama wants to outlaw AM talk radio. He clearly only like the freedom of speech he and his agree with.

The free market, like nature, doesn't permit vacuums.
 
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...When you are ready to take a long look at what happened here are some things to think about. The Republican brand is in free fall. They had a wake up call in ’06 but they gave in to self-deception instead of correction. The GOP needs to clean house and regain the trust of the independents. Their President has a very low approval rating and the VP is even lower. The went from control of Congress to having solid Dem majorities in both houses and yet most of what they have done is spew misinformation, half-truths and out and out lies. The American people aren’t buying it. GWB and the people surrounding him put your party on the ropes and until you regain the confidence of the American people the GOP is headed in a downhill spiral.



I actually agree much of what you wrote here Rimmy! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif

We need to restore the GOP to Reagan Conservatism. We R's are not going to win and lead as Democrats-lite where our big spending is somehow 'better' then the Dem's big, big spending!

We need to clean house...like yesterday!
 
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MI VHNTR my bad effort at repeating jumprightinit's initial statement is a far cry from putting jumprightinit's words into my mouth as you did with the following quote...

"So now you are suggesting that YOUR president-elect is returning to the stone ages because he didn't get his way?"

Jumprightinit is the one advocating that we boycott the news media so that they fail and therefore when you turn on your tv at night to get the latest news you get a black screen. I didnt say anything about Obama suggesting we boycott the news media. I guess we are both guilty. You can come back to the front of the class, but dont slip or you'll be sent right back. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif



No, TJ, that's not how it would work and that isn't what he is saying.




It is a free market thing.




The free market, like nature, doesn't permit vacuums.





You realize that trying to teach a liberal Democrat about free markets is like trying to teach a dog how to fly an airplane? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif It just aint going to happen. They don't believe in free markets, Java. If they did, they'd be Conservatives.
 




You realize that trying to teach a liberal Democrat about free markets is like trying to teach a dog how to fly an airplane? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif It just aint going to happen. They don't believe in free markets, Java. If they did, they'd be Conservatives.



That's about as good of an explanation I've heard so far about liberals. They just won't ever get it.
 
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...When you are ready to take a long look at what happened here are some things to think about. The Republican brand is in free fall. They had a wake up call in ’06 but they gave in to self-deception instead of correction. The GOP needs to clean house and regain the trust of the independents. Their President has a very low approval rating and the VP is even lower. The went from control of Congress to having solid Dem majorities in both houses and yet most of what they have done is spew misinformation, half-truths and out and out lies. The American people aren’t buying it. GWB and the people surrounding him put your party on the ropes and until you regain the confidence of the American people the GOP is headed in a downhill spiral.


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I actually agree much of what you wrote here Rimmy!




Add me to that line of thought. It seems like the GOP thought they were all powerful and that Americans would vote for them no matter what, just because they were republicans. In my opinion the Bush administration handed the Dems the election. Then the Dems promptly tried to give the presidency back to the republicans when it came down to either Hillary or Obama being nominated. Who in their right mind would vote for either one of them? If the republicans had actually put up a solid candidate they had it in the bag. But what do they do? They give the election away by dragging out John McCain who is basically Bush light while claiming to be a maverick. To me it didn't look like two parties that wanted to win an election, it looked like two parties that wanted to give it away. With the condition that this country is in who can blame them? I wouldn't want to be left holding the bag after the last few years.

Nate
 
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