I'm running them out of a 1-14 factory barrel, 22-250, at just over 3500 fps, and you can see a white streak on every shot. But they hit like a ton of bricks, and have always been an accurate bullet. Properly placed on prairie dogs, you get some awesome gymnastics and hang time! My boxes of bullets, aged a bit, have a slip of paper right in there, saying not to run them out of fast twist barrels, or over 3500 fps. And I have seen them come apart, when fired through rough barrels, or too fast a twist. Just a gray puff, about 65 yds. downrange, where bullet temperature enters the equation.