6x45 Load data

Posted by: pcammo

6x45 Load data - 12/24/09 11:15 AM

I am compiling a load book for the 6x45. Currently, I have 945 loads for everything from 55gr bullets up to 100gr bullets. If you will share with me your load data, I will include it in the book. I will then post the book here. If you wish to help out, please include as much information as possible about the load and firearm. Thanks,
John
Posted by: Fitch

Re: 6x45 Load data - 12/24/09 11:24 AM

Outstanding! I've been thinking about building one of those. I'll be very interested in your load data.

Thanks
Fitch
Posted by: venatic

Re: 6x45 Load data - 12/24/09 04:43 PM

Sent data via email.
Posted by: GetLost

Re: 6x45 Load data - 12/25/09 11:51 PM

Venatic, are you distributing 6x45 data? if you are i would like to get in on it
Posted by: Martyn4802

Re: 6x45 Load data - 12/26/09 10:12 AM

I have a barrel in the shop that will become a 6x47 barrel as soon as I can get to it. I had a 6x47 40 years ago that shot extremely well, with 748 and a benchrest bullet of the day. It's so close to the 6x45 that load data can be used as references when going from one to the other.
I'd be interested in seeing what works today for those loading for the 6x45.

Thank you,

Martyn
Posted by: pcammo

Re: 6x45 Load data - 12/26/09 10:51 AM

Thanks guys, keep the info flowing. It will take me about a week to put all this together. Right now, we are at 16 pages of load data.
John
Posted by: pcammo

Re: 6x45 Load data - 01/03/10 11:33 AM

Well here is version 1_1. I hope this is of some use to you guys. Please read the warnings at the beginning and end.
Thanks,
John

6x45 load data PDF
Posted by: crashnrondo

Re: 6x45 Load data - 01/03/10 12:38 PM

Very nice! Thanks for putting this together, my 6x45 Dtech will be here Monday.

Thanks,
Ron
Posted by: Martyn4802

Re: 6x45 Load data - 01/03/10 02:59 PM

Originally Posted By: pcammo
Well here is version 1_1. I hope this is of some use to you guys. Please read the warnings at the beginning and end.
Thanks,
John

6x45 load data PDF


Thanks for putting that together, and for posting the link to it.
Posted by: mbkmkk

Re: 6x45 Load data - 01/20/10 12:15 AM

Originally Posted By: pcammo
Well here is version 1_1. I hope this is of some use to you guys. Please read the warnings at the beginning and end.
Thanks,
John

6x45 load data PDF


Wow, Thanks for your hard work!
Posted by: pcammo

Re: 6x45 Load data - 08/19/10 11:34 PM

Here is the link to version 2. Thanks for all the contributions guys. There are about 15 new loads.

6x45 Load Data Version 1.2
Posted by: venatic

Re: 6x45 Load data - 08/20/10 12:14 AM

Thanks for the update John! thumbup
Posted by: GregW

Re: 6x45 Load data - 08/20/10 08:34 AM

I really need to add my load data to that...

I've got quite a bit of it that surely someone could look at...
Posted by: pcammo

Re: 6x45 Load data - 08/20/10 09:21 AM

Cool send it on and I will make the update. Thanks,
John
Posted by: GregW

Re: 6x45 Load data - 08/20/10 09:34 AM

John,

I have need to create a .xls for it when I get some time. I am in the midst of a move right now.

Can you send me an email at GregWilliamswlife@yahoo.com and give me some info on how you would like it packaged up?

Thanks...
Posted by: KAG

Re: 6x45 Load data - 09/20/10 03:27 PM

Thanks for posting this load data, best I have seen so far.
Posted by: venatic

Re: 6x45 Load data - 09/27/10 09:30 PM

Just in case someone is looking for some more data.I loaded some of the new IMR XBR8308 just to check it out in the 6X45mm.
Data: 25.5gr /68gr Euber bullet/CCI BR4 primer/2853fps
Accuracy was good two 4 shot groups at 100yds measured .715 and .548 and based on looks of primer load was warm but not max....in MY gun.

Since there seems to be a lot of interest in 6X45mm uppers in the AR forum I will make this a sticky for a while and see if it merits it or not.
Posted by: KAG

Re: 6x45 Load data - 09/27/10 10:57 PM

Thank you for making it a sticky
Posted by: pcammo

Re: 6x45 Load data - 09/28/10 08:33 AM

I have some 68 grain Rubrights (8s) on the way. I can't wait to give them a try. If my addiction keeps up, I may invest in a Niemi die set in 6mm. I know where a used rebated boat-tail set is, relatively cheap.
John
Posted by: vahunter

Re: 6x45 Load data - 09/29/10 04:59 PM

Thanks for the data. I'm in the process of rebarreling my savage to 6x45.
Posted by: 6mm06

Re: 6x45 Load data - 10/04/10 07:13 PM

Vahunter,

I've had the same thoughts, of rebarreling my Stevens 200 to 6x45. What barrel are you using?
Posted by: vahunter

Re: 6x45 Load data - 10/10/10 12:22 PM

I ordered one from Shilen last week. 18" with a 1in10 twist. $345.00 plus $12.00 shipping. The only bad thing is the 26 week wait for delivery. But from what I hear Shilen barrels are worth the wait.
Posted by: pcammo

Re: 6x45 Load data - 10/11/10 10:52 PM

I now have two Shilen barrels on Savage actions. One was transducer cut and one was normal. They are both 26" straight taper to .875" at the muzzle. The barrel quality is quite good, and they delivered much quicker than they quoted.
John
Posted by: Moki

Re: 6x45 Load data - 11/02/10 10:39 AM

I have a Robinson Arms XCR-L with uppers in both 223 & 6.8 SPC from what I understand RA is working on releasing a 6mmX45 barrel.

Being that this is the round that I feel the 223 should have been introduced as all along I will be picking up the barrel as soon as it is available...

So a big thank you for that link to the pdf load data file it will definitely come in handy...

smile
Posted by: JOKER

Re: 6x45 Load data - 11/16/10 07:44 PM

FORSTER just released inline seater for 6x45 this week
Posted by: pcammo

Re: 6x45 Load data - 11/16/10 09:27 PM

Welcome to PM. I have been a big fan of Forster dies for a while, think I may just have to order one.
John
Posted by: venatic

Re: 6x45 Load data - 12/03/10 06:50 PM

Interesting glad to see Forster recognizing the popularity
Posted by: Lex

Re: 6x45 Load data - 12/14/10 03:54 AM

So far mine shoot the best with 25.5gr of varget and 7o gr sierra match but i hunt with 75gr hps with the same load.
Posted by: AR243wssm

Re: 6x45 Load data - 12/21/10 10:07 PM

Anyone try varget on a 85g sierra hpbt?
Posted by: 5spd

Re: 6x45 Load data - 12/21/10 10:34 PM

Originally Posted By: AR243wssm
Anyone try varget on a 85g sierra hpbt?

Yup...3 shot group at .840" about 2500 fps, 24gr.
I have not run it over the chrony though since I didnt have it when I shot that load.

I found after I got my F1 chrony that H335 gives me 2710 av FPS at 25.1 gr. with a 5 shot .500" group @ 100 & a 3 shot group @ .510" at 200 yds. Primers on Varget and H335 are nice & rounded, no HP signs.
On the AR forum here I have several loads listed that I ran over the chrony for actual FPS also.
Posted by: pcammo

Re: 6x45 Load data - 01/05/11 09:51 PM

Here is version 3 with load data kindly supplied by 5spd and a couple loads with the new 87gr. Berger VLD.

6x45 Load Data 1.3
Posted by: dogmessiah

Re: 6x45 Load data - 02/19/11 10:09 PM

Just so you guys now, Ramshot just added a sectoin in their load guide for the 6x45
Posted by: dwoody

Re: 6x45 Load data - 03/21/11 05:16 PM

Has anyone tried 8208 XBR, I think the burn rate would be perfect for the caliber with midweight bullets, but have not seen anything on the Hodgdon's websight. T.S.
Posted by: pcammo

Re: 6x45 Load data - 03/21/11 07:48 PM

I have tried it, but not with a gun with a strain gauge or transducer attached (one quick attempt that was less than stellar). Accuracy and velocity were both good with the 62 gr. Berger. I want to load some of the 55gr. Nosler Ballistic Tips and shoot them in the rifle with the strain gauge.
John
Posted by: reb8600

Re: 6x45 Load data - 03/21/11 08:30 PM

I have been trying it with 65 gr Vmax but have not run it across a chrony yet. I did find a load that shot excellent, a .503 5 shot group and am going to try it again. I will put it across the chrony also when I do.
Posted by: JOKER

Re: 6x45 Load data - 03/21/11 08:42 PM

hogdon shows 8208 and it works pretty goodfor me almost interchagable with 335-- but i keep coming back to 335 if i am gonna use the loads immediately--8208 is not temp sensitive
Posted by: pcammo

Re: 6x45 Load data - 03/22/11 08:04 AM

I loaded several groups with different bullets and 8028 last night. I have loads with the 55gr. NBT, 62gr. Berger, and 70gr. NBT. I will try to shoot them this weekend.....if this snow quits.
John
Posted by: vahunter

Re: 6x45 Load data - 03/22/11 06:33 PM

I tried 24.3 grains of H335 behind a sierra 85 gr HPBT in my savage. 3/8" groups but I haven't tried to see if it'll do it all day long. Around 2600 FPS out of my 18" barrel.
Posted by: Tjkiller

Re: 6x45 Load data - 04/21/11 09:57 PM

60 grain Sierra Varminters HPs, 27.2 gr Benchmark. cci 400 primer. COnsistancy is very good, always under MOA 5 rd group if I do my part. Primers indicate this load is getting a little hot. Have no issues through 250 rds. I like these bullets because they are not as streamlined as the MKs. The ogive is more forward and the HP allows me to reach the lands and still fit in the mag. Only bullet that will do that thus far.
Posted by: 5spd

Re: 6x45 Load data - 05/08/11 05:49 PM

More 6x45 loads over the Chrony as of 5/8/2011

Savage FP10, 24" SS McGowan barrel.
COL for all loads is 2.280"
Win. small rifle primers.
All shot SUB to MOA in my gun, from .620" to 1.060"
Average FPS of 5 shots.

65g vmax, 24g AA2015...3171 FPS
70g Nosler BT, 24g AA2015...3168 FPS
87g vmax, 27.5g BLC2...2872 FPS
87g vmax, 27g BLC2...2792 FPS
87g vmax, 25g H335...2810 FPS
87g vmax, 26.5g Varget...3002 FPS
95g Nosler BT hunting, 24.1g H335...2653 FPS
95g Nosler BT hunting, 26.7g BLC2...2655 FPS
Posted by: Steve Timm

Re: 6x45 Load data - 07/17/11 02:07 PM



Originally Posted By: pcammo
I am compiling a load book for the 6x45. Currently, I have 945 loads for everything from 55gr bullets up to 100gr bullets. If you will share with me your load data, I will include it in the book. I will then post the book here. If you wish to help out, please include as much information as possible about the load and firearm. Thanks,
John



John,

If you have access to Handloader magazines, I wrote a feature article on the 6X45. The name of the article is Kimber's 6X45 - A Sensible Wildcat and it was published in Handloader Issue 131, January-February 1988, pages 48 to 52.

I assure you that I'm one of the honest gunwriters, one who actually shoots. All of the data I listed in the article was carefully developed at the range and it was safe in the three rifles I borrowed from Kimber of Oregon. One of the rifles shot so danged well that I bought it.

My 6X45 article was re-printed in that huge and wonderful book by Wolfe Publishing, Wildcat Cartridges - Volume II. It appears in its full published version on pages 857 to 859.

Interestingly enough, Wolfe Publishing screwed all of their writers when publishing Wildcat Cartridges - Volume II. We sell "first publishing rights" to our articles and if the piece is re-printed, the publisher is lawfully obliged to pay for any subsequent publishing. Wolfe absolutely did not pay for re-publishing. That was about the last time I trusted an editor.

If you are unsuccessful in finding my 6X45 article, just ask and and give me your physical address; I'll send you an autographed hard-copy by snail mail, with my total compliments.

Good luck with the load book on this fabulous cartridge.

Best wishes,

Steve Timm
Posted by: vahunter

Re: 6x45 Load data - 07/17/11 04:56 PM

Steve I'd be willing to buy a copy to check out your load data. Iv'e been trying different loads about every weekend for the past few months.
Posted by: Steve Timm

Re: 6x45 Load data - 07/17/11 07:28 PM



Originally Posted By: vahunter
Steve I'd be willing to buy a copy to check out your load data. Iv'e been trying different loads about every weekend for the past few months.



Send me a PM with your physical address and I'll get it right out. No prob.

Steve
Posted by: blopez50

6x45 Load Question - 10/26/11 12:26 AM

I was looking over version 1.3 and im just curious whats up with the yellow ones? Are those reliable loads or just speculation?

Thanks guys!
Posted by: venatic

Re: 6x45 Load Question - 11/02/11 11:27 AM

I think there is an explanation on the first page of the document and IIRC it is interpolated data.

By the way I have some limited data for the 6X45 with the new AR Comp powder that I worked up if someone is interested.
Posted by: Shoes

Re: 6x45 Load Question - 11/02/11 11:38 AM

Rather than start a whole new thread, I'll try here first. Anyone calculate the trajectory of this caliber? I've googled but never found much.
Posted by: blopez50

Re: 6x45 Load Question - 11/02/11 11:45 AM

^ that's gonna depend completely on the load.... Find which bullet you're interested in and then google "free ballistics calculator".

The 55gr NBT will be very different from a 100gr SP...


Venatic- thanks for the info!
Posted by: venatic

Re: 6x45 Load Question - 11/02/11 12:09 PM

Originally Posted By: Shoes
Rather than start a whole new thread, I'll try here first. Anyone calculate the trajectory of this caliber? I've googled but never found much.


Just plug in your bullet of choice and all other data and it will tell you what you want to know.

http://www.jbmballistics.com/cgi-bin/jbmtraj-5.1.cgi
Posted by: Shoes

Re: 6x45 Load Question - 11/02/11 12:33 PM

Never played with that calculator before, I've been missing out! Thanks a bunch Venatic!
Posted by: gumboot458

Re: 6x45 Load Question - 11/10/11 08:42 PM

This looks like the round I've been looking for. 75 gr bullets @3000 fps and the 85 gr TSX@2750-2800 fps.
Posted by: JOKER

Re: 6x45 Load Question - 01/11/12 08:59 PM

anyone tried the new CBE223 powder yet???? got the powder but no range time yet--thanks--should work well--
Posted by: Killmoredogs

Re: 6x45 Load Question - 02/02/12 04:20 PM

Originally Posted By: venatic
I think there is an explanation on the first page of the document and IIRC it is interpolated data.

By the way I have some limited data for the 6X45 with the new AR Comp powder that I worked up if someone is interested.


Very interested in your data as I am a big fan of AR Comp in my 223. Currently considering the 6mmx45
Posted by: venatic

Re: 6x45 Load Question - 03/02/12 12:29 AM

Originally Posted By: JOKER
anyone tried the new CBE223 powder yet???? got the powder but no range time yet--thanks--should work well--


I have now!
I loaded up to 29.5 gr with two different 75gr Bullets and fired in two guns.
The first was a DTech 18 inch barreled 1/12 twist and the speed averaged 2938fps and it shot 5 shots into .968 with 3 shots under 1/2 inch with a hornady hp.

The next load was the same but with the 75gr Vmax and the gun was a 24 inch barreled Cooper. Speed averaged 3093fps and the 5 shots was .605.

These loads looked like lower pressure than my current loads for each gun but with equal or better velocity.
Looks very promising and I would suggest using BLC-2 data and work up.
Posted by: venatic

Re: 6x45 Load Question - 03/02/12 12:30 AM

Originally Posted By: Killmoredogs
Originally Posted By: venatic
I think there is an explanation on the first page of the document and IIRC it is interpolated data.

By the way I have some limited data for the 6X45 with the new AR Comp powder that I worked up if someone is interested.


Very interested in your data as I am a big fan of AR Comp in my 223. Currently considering the 6mmx45



I used 25.0 gr and the load was mild and pretty slow 2700fps with 70gr bullets but shot very well.
Posted by: pcammo

Re: 6x45 Load Question - 03/10/12 08:20 PM

Sorry to have been away for so long. Here is an updated guide. I see that there is more info to add already.

6x45 Load Guide 5.0
Posted by: pcammo

Re: 6x45 Load Question - 03/11/12 04:25 PM

Another nice day at the range with the 6x45 (my back deck).





Posted by: pcammo

Re: 6x45 Load Question - 03/13/12 07:32 PM

Here is the process I used for the HBN coating of the bullets in the version 5 guide:

Step 1: Wash the bullets (about 250 6mm bullets) in acetone.


Step 2: Place the bullets and impact media (1.5 lbs #B steel shot) in metal pan.


Step 3: Heat the bullets and impact media @ 240°F for 20 min.


Step 4: Plate the bullets for 2 hours (1 hour 15 min. for Sierra Blitz), adding approximately 250mg 7 micron HBN directly to the tumbler.


Step 5: Remove the bullets from the media.


Step 6: Give the bullets a quick polish with a towel or old T-shirt. You can also place the bullets back in the tumbler with old newspaper or cloth strips for a real shine. Personally, I don't think the prairie dogs can tell how shiny the bullets are.
Posted by: eneranch

Re: 6x45 Load Question - 03/14/12 09:03 AM

Originally Posted By: pcammo


Step 4: Plate the bullets for 2 hours (1 hour 15 min. for Sierra Blitz), adding approximately 250mg 7 μm HBN directly to the tumbler.





Please explain what this means.
Posted by: CatShooter

Re: 6x45 Load Question - 03/14/12 09:11 AM

Originally Posted By: pcammo


"Step 4: Plate the bullets for 2 hours (1 hour 15 min. for Sierra Blitz), adding approximately 250mg HBN directly to the tumbler."




Why is there a different time for the Sierra BlitzKing??
Posted by: MO1

Re: 6x45 Load Question - 03/14/12 11:53 AM

What is an HBN coating, and why is it of benefit?
Posted by: pcammo

Re: 6x45 Load Question - 03/14/12 12:54 PM

Originally Posted By: CatShooter
Originally Posted By: pcammo


"Step 4: Plate the bullets for 2 hours (1 hour 15 min. for Sierra Blitz), adding approximately 250mg HBN directly to the tumbler."




Why is there a different time for the Sierra BlitzKing??




Sierra and Berger jackets tend to get a nice even coat faster than Nosler or Hornady jackets (in my setup). You also need to really watch the tumbler when you are coating lead tip bullets. If they are getting deformed you either need to stop or add more mass to the tumbler. I should also specify that this is the 80gr. Sierra Blitz (a lead tipped bullet) and not one of the BlitzKings. I have not tried coating any of the BlitzKings....yet.
Thanks,
John
Posted by: pcammo

Re: 6x45 Load Question - 03/14/12 01:09 PM

Originally Posted By: MO1
What is an HBN coating, and why is it of benefit?


Hexagonal Boron nitride (HBN) is a binary refractory compound that possesses good lubricity and good chemical inertness. It is used in many industrial applications as well as some face powders and other cosmetics. Here we are using it as a way to mitigate copper fouling in high volume shooting conditions. Its application and purpose are very similar to molly coating bullets. I tend to like HBN better than molly simply because it is more chemically inert and cannot generate corrosive sulfides in the barrel under some storage conditions. Like all other bullet coating, it is not safe to assume that pressure will be reduced in a given load when changing from “naked” bullets to coated bullets; especially if you have a high quality smooth barrel to start with. Start low and work up.
John
Posted by: venatic

Re: 6x45 Load Question - 03/15/12 12:49 AM

John good to see you back in the neighborhood! thumbup1

Oh and I am jealous of you're shooting range too! Must be nice to shoot in the backyard. grin
Posted by: pcammo

Re: 6x45 Load Question - 03/15/12 08:04 AM

Originally Posted By: eneranch
Originally Posted By: pcammo


Step 4: Plate the bullets for 2 hours (1 hour 15 min. for Sierra Blitz), adding approximately 250mg 7 μm HBN directly to the tumbler.





Please explain what this means.





Sorry, that should have been "adding approx. 250mg of 7 micron HBN..."
Posted by: pcammo

Re: 6x45 Load Question - 03/15/12 08:12 AM

Originally Posted By: venatic
John good to see you back in the neighborhood! thumbup1

Oh and I am jealous of you're shooting range too! Must be nice to shoot in the backyard. grin


It is nice to be back. I am not ever taking a job that far from home again.

It looks like I need to try some CFE 223 in the 6x45. smile
Posted by: venatic

Re: 6x45 Load Question - 03/15/12 10:22 PM

Yes you do !

After my little trial with it I ran home and loaded 20 more rounds but have not gotten to try it again on paper or on a critter YET.
Posted by: MO1

Re: 6x45 Load Question - 03/16/12 08:23 AM

Anyone know if the CFE 223 is temperature insensitive like the Hodgdon Extreme powders?

I'm interested in trying it in the new 6x45 upper, but I always try to stick solely with the extreme powders because I hunt and shoot between 40 below zero and 80 above, and have had some bad experiences and wild velocity deviation with powders like BLC-2 and other non-extremes.
Posted by: CatShooter

Re: 6x45 Load Question - 03/16/12 09:13 AM

Originally Posted By: MO1
Anyone know if the CFE 223 is temperature insensitive like the Hodgdon Extreme powders?

I'm interested in trying it in the new 6x45 upper, but I always try to stick solely with the extreme powders because I hunt and shoot between 40 below zero and 80 above, and have had some bad experiences and wild velocity deviation with powders like BLC-2 and other non-extremes.


No... it is a ball powder and sensitive to temperature changes.
Posted by: pcammo

Re: 6x45 Load Question - 03/16/12 10:29 AM

CatShooter is correct, I would not expect CFE 223 to be as temp. stable as the extreme powders. I doubt there are enough rounds down range yet with it to say just how sensitive it is. BL-C(2) and H-335 have always been some of the worst offenders in my rifles. X-Terminator seems to not be quite as bad. It looks like we will be in the 50's tomorrow and in the low teens by early monday morning. If I am industrious enough, I will put some ammo and the rifle in the -30 freezer overnight and we will see what happens.
Posted by: T3BEAR

Re: 6x45 Load Question - 03/24/12 11:00 AM

Great info. Just received my 6x45 barrel and I ready to test it. Thanks..
Posted by: MO1

Re: 6x45 Load data - 04/04/12 03:47 PM

Here's some recent 6x45 data:

20" D-tech upper, avg. temp 50 deg, Win once fired brass, CCI 400 primers, seated to mag length of 2.260

bullet, powder, grains, avg. velocity, 4 shot groups, notes
75 grain V-max, H-4895, 25.6, 2726
75 grain V-max, H-4895, 25.8, 2726
75 grain V-max, H-4895, 26.0, 2732
75 grain V-max, H-4895, 26.2, 2777
75 grain V-max, H-4895, 26.4, 2818
75 grain V-max, H-4895, 26.5, 2789, .3", outstanding accuracy and velocity uniformity
75 grain V-max, H-4895, 26.6, 2801, .6"
75 grain V-max, H-4895, 26.7, 2818, .6", primer flattening starting here in some loads, but no cratering in any loads
75 grain V-max, H-4895, 26.8, 2807
75 grain V-max, H-4895, 27.0, 2818
(settled on 26.5 load for the 75 grain V-max)
---------
75 grain V-max, Benchmark, 24.0, 2666
75 grain V-max, Benchmark, 24.2, 2666
75 grain V-max, Benchmark, 24.4, 2732, started seeing slightly flat and cratered primers
75 grain V-max, Benchmark, 24.6, 2666
75 grain V-max, Benchmark, 24.8, 2749
75 grain V-max, Benchmark, 25.0, 2737
75 grain V-max, Benchmark, 25.2, 2760
75 grain V-max, Benchmark, 25.4, 2789
(abandoned Benchmark due to erratic velocity data and primer pressure signs)



Load data on 85 grain Sierra Gamemaster HPBT to follow in a week or so.
Posted by: EFR

Re: 6x45 Load data - 04/06/12 08:50 AM

Thanks to everyone for all the 6x45 info here. I am (impatiently) waiting on a 6x45 barrel from Lothar Walther jump into this caliber as well. Looks like a winner.
Posted by: IceAxe

Re: 6x45 Load data - 04/11/12 12:37 PM

First thanks to everyone who contributed to data I found here. What a wealth of info. By far the best I have found on the web.

I put together an upper with a 20" stainless Midway\Stoner barrel (6x45) 1-8 twist. The upper shoots great (1" or less/ w 4x Nikon) providing I use bullets of 75 grains or less. I would have thought with this twist rate I could stabilize at least the 87 or 90 gainers but that has not been the case. The groups for these "heavier" rounds open up to 3 or 4 inches. I wonder if other members using Ar style uppers in 6x45 have had similar results. If you have been successful with heavier bullets in a similar upper what recipe/combination was used? Thanks Bob
Posted by: bubbabassin45

Re: 6x45 Load data - 04/15/12 12:32 AM

Just shot my new 6x45 today. It is also a 1 in 8 twist but 24 inches. Only tried one load just to see how it ran. I loaded 87 grain v-maxes with h4895 and shot two groups at around 3/4 inch at 100 yards. One was 5 shots and the second was 4 shots as that was all the rounds I had left. This was shot prone over my buddies tool bag in his field. Very happy with it. I am sure off of a bench with a real rest I could have shrunk the groups in half. As far as the previous poster goes I had no problems stabilizing the 87 grain bullets.
Posted by: IceAxe

Re: 6x45 Load data - 04/15/12 07:28 PM

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What velocity / load are you getting with the 4895. Perhaps I am not slinging them fast enough.
Posted by: bubbabassin45

Re: 6x45 Load data - 04/16/12 12:16 AM

Didn't bring chrono. Buddy called me last minute to see if I wanted to go to his land to set up his camper with a little shooting after. Loaded 25.3 gr of H4895. From load data I have seen it should be somewhere around 2700. No pressure signs at all primers still had rounded edges. Could definately go higher and I might try that next time if I am able to fit more powder in the case. Load was definately compressed but I was very happy with the groups for the first load from the barrel. Good luck with getting yours to stabilize the 87's. I wouldn't think there should be any problems with a 1 in 8 stabilizing them. Maybe you just need a new powder or charge to get them to shoot.
Posted by: IceAxe

Re: 6x45 Load data - 04/20/12 09:33 PM

Well I went out to the range yesterday and had some interesting results.

The 58 gr VMax with 26.5 Varget averaged 2651 fps and the 75 gr VMax with the same 26.5 Varget averaged 2745 fps. I would have thought the heavier bullet would have been slower. This leads me to think Varget might be a bit slow burning for the lighter 58 grainers. Although, I think I may want to stay with the Varget since despite my shooting ability they are all trying to fly in the same hole. Next I'll work up some 87g VMax loads with 4895 and Varget and see what happens.

Well... I think what I really need is another upper with a 24 inch barrel.
Posted by: 5spd

Re: 6x45 Load data - 04/24/12 08:28 PM

My most recent loads & speeds.
My Savage 6x45 build, 24" McGowan ss bbl, 1/10" twist.
Average FPS of 10 shots each.
58g V max, 26.1G Ex-Terminator, 2.280" col....3214 FPS
58g Z max, 26.1g Ex-Terminator, 2.280" col....3238
65g Vmax, 24.2g AA2015, 2.280" col,...........3067
65g Vmax, 24.4g AA2015, 2.280" col............3025
70g NBT, 24g AA2015, 2.280" col...............2907
80g Speer, 24.4g AA2015, 2.280" col...........2914
80g Speer, 27.6g W748, 2.280" col.............2941
80g Speer, 27.5g BLC2, 2.280" col.............2826
80g Speer, 26.2g H335, 2.280" col.............2926
87g Vmax, 25g H335, 2.280" col................2915
87g Vmax, 27g BLC2, 2.280" col................2792
87g Vmax, 26.5 Varget, 2.280"col..............3002
95g NBT hunting, 24.3 H335, 2.280" col........2718
95g NBT Hunting, 26.7 BLC2, 2.280"col.........2652

The 58g Z&V max, 65g Vmax & 70g NBT are SUPER coyote loads. The 95g NBT & H335 is perfect on Antelope!
Posted by: pcammo

Re: 6x45 Load data - 04/24/12 08:37 PM

Looks like I need to update the file again. Thanks.
John
Posted by: pcammo

Re: 6x45 Load data - 04/25/12 08:22 PM

6x45 Load Data 5.1

Here are the updates from MO1 and 5spd. Thanks guys!
John
Posted by: blusam

Re: 6x45 Load data - 05/03/12 02:05 PM

John, Those vmax 65gr shot great. Can cover 5 with a dime at 100. The 55gr vmax for the 22/250 shot better. A quarter will touch 5 at 255 yds. Thanks again for all the help and hard work. Has the pkg from Midway arrived yet???
Posted by: pahntr760

Re: 6x45 Load data - 05/14/12 02:11 AM

Thanks to all for this Data! My wifes 6x45 should be shooting this weekend!!
Posted by: thespecialist

Re: 6x45 Load data - 05/15/12 06:18 PM

First post on the forum, this place has been a huge help with my first 6x45. I figured I'd share a few loads to add to the database in return for the info I gathered from here.

All of the loads below were fired from a 24" Blackhole Weaponry 1/9 twist barrel. Velocities are recorded with the chrono at 15ft. These loads were well within safe pressures in my gun, yours may be different.

87gr Hornady BTHP
26gr IMR 8208
LC '05 brass
CCI BR4 Primer
COAL: 2.345"
VEL: 2821

87gr Hornady BTHP
26gr H-4895
Lapua Brass
CCI BR4 primer
COAL: 2.345"
VEL: 2814

87gr Berger VLD
26gr IMR 8208
Lapua Brass
CCI BR4
COAL: 2.42" (.002" from lands)
VEL: 2847

70gr Speer TNT
26gr IMR 8208
LC Brass
Rem 7 1/2 primer
COAL: 2.26"
VEL: 2816 (E/S a little too high for me at 60, speed not there but .8" 5 shot groups repeatably @100yds)

70r Speer TNT (HbN coated)
26gr IMR 8208
LC Brass
Rem 7 1/2 primer
COAL: 2.345"
VEL: 2911

**Disclaimer on the Hornady 87gr BTHP/IMR8208 load. I took it out to 400 this weekend to confirm the drop and I think my chrono is reading low. By all means it should have taken 7MOA to hit dead on at 400, my correction was 6.4MOA. That puts the speed closer to 2925, 104fps faster than recorded. The wind drift was matching spot on as calculated by both JBM and Shooter using real-time environmental data as well.**
Posted by: pcammo

Re: 6x45 Load data - 05/15/12 06:47 PM

Welcome to the PM board.

Thanks for the data. It will make the next revision.
John
Posted by: pahntr760

Re: 6x45 Load data - 05/22/12 07:24 AM

I pushed the 70 Gr Speer TNT upto 27 gr of 8208XBR. Its rather compressed and listed as MAX on hodgdon.com, but shot safely and accurately out of the 20" 6X45...

Posted by: blusam

Re: 6x45 Load Question - 05/22/12 12:44 PM

I recognize that porch
Posted by: pcammo

Re: 6x45 Load Question - 05/25/12 11:05 PM

I finally have a couple pounds of CFE-223. If this snow/rain will let up a bit, I will pressure test a few loads.
John
Posted by: venatic

Re: 6x45 Load Question - 06/03/12 09:23 AM

Looking forward to the results.
I tried the CFE223 with 55gr Nosler SHOTS bullets and speeds were lower than the speed of AA2015 and XTerminator so from my limited testing it does not start to shine until you get to 70gr bullets in the 6X45mm.

Here is the load I settled on for now with my Cooper.

70gr Nosler BT
29.7gr CFE223
Lapua brass
Remington 7 1/2
AOL @ 2.415
velocity @ 3120fps ES 21 SD 7

My 18inch DTech AR load with the 55gr Nosler SHOT bullets. I got this from John's data working with the XTerminator powder.

55gr Nosler SHOT(Kangaroo bullets)
28.0gr XTerminator
LC brass
CCI450 primer
OAL 2.150
velocity@ 3189fps ES 22 SD 6
Posted by: sigpros

Re: 6x45 Load Question - 06/03/12 09:53 AM

I'm going to have to try that SHOT load. Between a buddy and I we are sitting on 3k of them. I will have to go get some powder. Hows the accuracy?
Posted by: venatic

Re: 6x45 Load Question - 06/03/12 06:25 PM

I found sub MOA accuracy with both XTerminator and AA2015 with a slight advantage to AA2015. I went with the XTerminator to get the extra 150fps. My 6mmDTi really likes them with AA2015 powder as well and it runs them at 3600fps with my fireforming load. These bullets are not benchrest quality but if your gun likes them they should do fine although with their blunt shape they are not the best for longer range out past 300 yard or so. Thats why I decided to use all the ones I have (2 thousand) in the short barreled AR for now anyway. I killed quite a few coyotes with that bullet last year.
Posted by: blusam

Re: 6x45 Load Question - 06/07/12 10:04 PM

Posted by: XR357

Re: 6x45 Load Question - 08/01/12 07:36 PM

I am thinking about building a 6x45 on a Savage action with a Shilen barrel and was wondering if anyone had real life experience/recommendations for the twist. I am planning on using the barrel mainly for varmint and occasionally larger game. I would like to shoot 70 to 80 grain varmint bullets the majority of the time, but would like to be able to shoot 85 to 90 grain bullet as well. My 243 really likes Hornady 87 grain V-max’s and some crossover would be nice. I am leaning towards a 1 in 10”, but any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
Posted by: venatic

Re: 6x45 Load Question - 08/24/12 11:04 PM

If you want to go above 85gr then definitely get the 1/10 twist. The 1 in 12 will handle 80's I know because I have shot quite a few thru two of them.
Posted by: UncleDoc

Re: 6x45 Load Question - 08/31/12 01:45 PM

This is about the best source for 6x45 data that I have found, and thank you for putting it out there. Does anyone have a "preferred" accuracy load for the 75 and 80 grainers? I used to be crazy about velocity, but these days I am more interested in hitting what I am shooting at, even if it is a little slower on impact.
Posted by: MPFD

Re: 6x45 Load Question - 08/31/12 01:58 PM

I had really good luck with Varget and 85 grain gamekings as far as accuracy, never chrono'd it but I would expect low velocity. Mt pet load is 70 g. Matchkings with 25 grains of AA2015 @ 2750 fps from my 16" AR carbine. It is extremely accurate, but is a hot load so work up! Friends and I have had great success with this load in three different BHW barrels.
Posted by: Ogallala_1

Re: 6x45 Load Question - 09/19/12 06:34 PM

Has anyone tried the 80 grn GMX bullet from Hornady? How about the superformance powder?
Posted by: Bennybone

Re: 6x45 Load Question - 09/23/12 05:29 PM

I fired 80 rounds of CFE223 with 2 types of bullets (Barnes 62gr varmit grendades and Nosler 80gr Ballistic Tips).

decent results with a couple of charges, I will post them up later in the week.

BB
Posted by: Yotecallr

Re: 6x45 Load Question - 10/09/12 04:58 PM

How does the round do on big whitetails out to 200 yards?
Posted by: bachekermooni

Re: 6x45 Load data - 10/16/12 09:51 AM

Hello everyone.
Thanks for the wealth of information. I am starting a 6x45 build with a CZ 527 M1 American black syn stock as the donor. It will be rebored and eventually restocked (if possible) with a Cuda style stock.
This rifle comes with a 22" barrel. I will be using the 65 gr Hornady v-max for yotes and Speer 85 gr SPBT for deer. I have two questions:
1. Should I stay with the 22" bbl or shorten it to 20" (preferred).
2. What twist should I get? I am not planning on going with larger pills. I am wondering what effect shortening will have on the possible twist rate.

I want a light quick handling rifle (MN woods can be quite thick) that can also cover a short field on the edge of the woods. I am not a big fan of recoil or weight.

Thanks.
Posted by: bachekermooni

Re: 6x45 Load data - 10/18/12 02:49 PM

I see very little data using the AA 2230 powder. Is there a particular reason for that or no one simply has played with powder much? Any opinions on this powder? I use it for my 233 rifles.

Once I have my CZ build (above) done, I am hoping to get more info on it - with everyone here's help, of course.
Posted by: Ogallala_1

Re: 6x45 Load data - 10/18/12 08:07 PM

Another question for the board..... How hard would it be to ream my 6x45 ar to 6x47? How much would I gain? Is there any difference between the 6x47 and a 6mm/204?

Thanks in advance

John
Posted by: 37L1

Re: 6x45 Load data - 11/09/12 04:25 PM

AR-15 6x45 BHW 20" Standard Profile .750 gas block 1/9 using 8208XBR

70 Sierra Match King, 26.6 8208, L/C brass, Fed 205M, 2820fps. 4 shot group: .339 MOA (5 was a flyer cursing)

75 Hornady V-MAX, 26.3 8208, L/C brass, Fed 205M, 2750fps. 3 shot group: .215 MOA

All COL: 2.260

First victim 70 SMK @ 100 yards:

Posted by: Vartarg217

Re: 6x45 Load data - 11/10/12 08:49 AM

Well done!! Nice looking dog!

Thanks also for the load info.....
Posted by: EFR

Re: 6x45 Load data - 11/17/12 09:15 PM

Has anyone tried H4198 in the 6x45? It has a burn rate just ahead of VN133. I'm thinking of trying it with 55gr nosler BT or lead free BT. Any ideas?

I am using an 18" mid length BHW barrel.

My best loads to date are:

27.0 gr Benchmark, Win NT brass, 55 gr Nosler lead free, 3/4" ( 3 shot/100 yds) and +/- 2990 fps. Compressed load

28.4 gr Exterminator, LC brass (or ICC), 55 gr Nosler BT, 1/2"-1" (3 shot/100 yds), +/-3144 fps. Not as consistent accuracy as I would like.
Posted by: Win.308stealth

Re: 6x45 Load data - 03/24/13 10:09 AM

In the loading data, what do the yellow highlighted loads mean? Are those loads unconfirmed? While still waiting for my DTech upper I decided to load up some loads this winter. One of the loads in the manual states you can use 28 gr of Varget with a 70 gr bullet. 28 gr of Varget fills up a 6x45 case almost to the top of the case mouth, you would not be able even seat a bullet.
Maybe I missed something in the reloading guide, about the loads highlighted in yellow.
Posted by: eneranch

Re: 6x45 Load data - 03/24/13 10:24 AM

If you look on the last page of the 6x45 Load Data, it explains the color codes.
Posted by: Win.308stealth

Re: 6x45 Load data - 03/24/13 11:34 AM

Oh, I see. My computer is VERY slow so I never went to the bottom of the booklet. Thanks.
Posted by: Tracvision

Re: 6x45 Load data - 04/23/13 06:18 PM

PCAMMO, Thanks for the loading guide. Good stuff. Its guys like you that make this sport fun.
Posted by: scatterbrains

Re: 6x45 Load data - 05/13/13 09:44 AM

Has anyone tried Alliant power pro varmint in the 6x45 yet? I picked some up for the 204r and figured i could give it a shot in my AR.
Posted by: foxhunter1

Re: 6x45 Load data - 09/20/13 12:43 PM

great thread, i've been shootint the 6x45 and 6x47 since the early 1980"s for coyotes and it is a thumper.
Posted by: DirtyDave413

Re: 6x45 Load data - 12/08/13 01:06 AM

Great info guys. My next AR will be a 6x45!
What twist rate is working well for the 75-87gr V-max's?
Posted by: cedarcreekcooner

Re: 6x45 Load data - 12/13/13 11:41 AM

Anyone use any Berger bullets for coyotes in 6x45?

Or the Sierra 60gr HP?
Posted by: Tracvision

Re: 6x45 Load data - 12/16/13 09:52 PM

I have a few 6x45s. One is a Dtech. They love the 70 SMK's.
Posted by: 6mmterry

Re: 6x45 Load Question - 01/15/14 04:54 PM

I have a 6x 47 (222REM Mag) that I like very much...It is a short action model 10. The barrel was reworked heavy varmint that I had reworked. I have not measured or Chrono any loads but the coyotes and ground hogs I have killed don't know that.

I am hoping to spend more time this spring I am shooting 55 gr in mine but again I don't know speed. I love the cartridge
Posted by: 6x45 Fan

Re: 6x45 Load data - 02/07/14 08:35 PM

I'm new to the 6x45 and I am learning a lot from your information here. My questions are these:
Have any of you tried Accurate's AA2460 for the 6x45, and, if so, how is it working for you? I plan on using the 80 grain Barnes TTSX for hogs and Horandy 58 grain V-Max's for everything up to coyotes out of a Black Hole Weaponry 16" LTM barrel. The burn rate is a tad slower than the AA2230, so, is it a viable powder for the cartridge? I am also planning on trying Varget and IMR 8208XBR, but my questions are for AA2460. Thanks
Posted by: Beach

Re: 6x45 Load Question - 02/07/14 09:12 PM

Hello,
I'm new to this forum and see that this is an older thread. Is this load data still available? The link shows the destination as temporarily unavailable.
Posted by: eneranch

Re: 6x45 Load data - 02/08/14 08:47 AM

Try This

6x45 Load data
Posted by: 6x45 Fan

Re: 6x45 Load data - 02/08/14 12:11 PM

Thanks. I already have that. No data for AA 2460, though.
Posted by: pahntr760

Re: 6x45 Load data - 02/08/14 12:20 PM

http://www.frfrogspad.com/burnrate.htm
http://www.lapua.com/upload/reloading/reloadingburningratechart2011.pdf
http://www.reloadersnest.com/burnrates.asp

Find comparable powders here. Use their average and work from there.

Looks like H335 and BL(C)-2 or Win748 are on either side of it. Try these numbers and make an average. Work to the top and report back with your results!
Posted by: 6x45 Fan

Re: 6x45 Load data - 02/08/14 12:53 PM

So, using those burn rates, I would look at your data and comparable powders and start there? As an example, a comparable powder is W748 @ 24.7 grains to 27.6 grains would average 26.2 grains for the 80 grain bullet category. So, my starting load for the 2460 should be 26.2 grains. Is my thinking correct? Thanks for the GREAT info and help.
Posted by: pahntr760

Re: 6x45 Load data - 02/08/14 12:55 PM

No...not the average of the loads, but an average of starting charges.

Take the average of a couple of powders on either side of yours. Average the starting loads and work up from there.

Ie Take BL(C)-2 and 748, maybe h335 and average all 3 starting loads to get your base.
Posted by: 6x45 Fan

Re: 6x45 Load data - 02/08/14 02:22 PM

That makes sense. What about pressures of different powders? I'm assuming that's why we're starting at the beginning loads. Thanks again for the help. Of the powders in my range, have you had good success with any of them? Sorry for so many questions, just don't want any catastrophic failures to a VERY expensive build, not to mention personal injury.
Posted by: pahntr760

Re: 6x45 Load data - 02/08/14 02:27 PM

I pretty much only use IMR-8208 XBR in my 6x45s. It just works for me. Plenty of other folks are using your powders listed

It looks that the buckammo.com site is down? I can't get it to come up.

If you start on the bottoms end, and work up, I don't see any issues.


W-748 25.6
H-335 27.0
BL-C(2) 28.0

I would start right at 26 gr, go up by 1/2 gr increments…WATCH FOR PRESSURE, and report back. Be meticulous a pay attention to what the loads tell you.
Posted by: 6x45 Fan

Re: 6x45 Load data - 02/08/14 02:56 PM

Sounds good. I've loaded 105 rounds for break in and fire forming using 24 grains of Varget and 72 grain Barnes Varminators. Once I shoot those, I have 3 more loaded with 26 grains of 8208 and the 80 Grain Barnes TTSX, my intended pig load. I got that data from hodgdon's website, so I'm comfortable with it. It's an average load. Those are the ones I'll look VERY carefully at. They were kind of "crunchy" as I seated that long bullet, but they seated fine at 2.275.
Posted by: eneranch

Re: 6x45 Load data - 02/08/14 02:58 PM

Be VERY careful with "Crunchy" loads; compressed can cause some problems !!
Posted by: 6x45 Fan

Re: 6x45 Load data - 02/08/14 03:16 PM

That's why I want the 2460 to work, besides having a lot of it. I don't think it will be a compressed load for that bullet.
Posted by: pahntr760

Re: 6x45 Load data - 02/08/14 03:17 PM

All my 6X45 loads are rather crunchy. Just look for the normal pressure signs and go from there. Compressed loads are nothing to worry about. A drop tube may help you get more powder, more cleanly, into the case.

I made this one for my full case loads.

Posted by: 6x45 Fan

Re: 6x45 Load data - 02/08/14 03:56 PM

Both powders, 2460 and 8208XBR are right up to the shoulder, maybe a little lower, but with that TTSX being 1.08" long, it definitely pushes powder. I'll fire those 3 TTSX's I have and see. I like the drop tube. What bullets are you using with your 8208? The other issue is that I live in lead free California, so I'm limited to bullet choices for hunting rounds, and I like the tipped bullets for reliable feeding. I might just have to try and find some AA2015, 2230, or 2200..........Another question, well, more of a theory, hotter powder for light bullets, slower powder for the heavies?
Posted by: eneranch

Re: 6x45 Load data - 02/08/14 04:11 PM

Originally Posted By: 6x45 Fan
........Another question, well, more of a theory, hotter powder for light bullets, slower powder for the heavies?


As a general rule, that is correct. There is a happy medium, finding it is the hard part.
Posted by: 6x45 Fan

Re: 6x45 Load data - 02/08/14 04:22 PM

That explains why 8208XBR is so well liked for the 80+ers. Even compressed, it's at 44,000 CUP, which is well within pressure ranges for the .223 case.
Posted by: pahntr760

Re: 6x45 Load data - 02/08/14 08:22 PM

Originally Posted By: 6x45 Fan
Both powders, 2460 and 8208XBR are right up to the shoulder...



Thats cute…lol



Just messin' a bit with you...
Posted by: 6x45 Fan

Re: 6x45 Load data - 02/08/14 08:32 PM

How many grains is that? I'm assuming it's 8208XBR.
Posted by: pahntr760

Re: 6x45 Load data - 02/08/14 08:37 PM

Thats 27.5 of Varget…70 gr TNT made it crunch a little. But it shot very well.
Posted by: 6x45 Fan

Re: 6x45 Load data - 02/08/14 08:45 PM

Probably sounded like popcorn popping! Yeah...that Varget fills the cases. One of my pet loads in .223 was 27 grains of Varget with the Hornady 50 grain GMX. Looks like I'm not going to worry too much about 26 grains of 8028XBR. Might have to go buy a few more pounds of the stuff. After crunching, no pun intended, the numbers on those burn rates, it looks like 24.3 grains of 2460 is a starting load.
Posted by: pahntr760

Re: 6x45 Load data - 02/08/14 08:52 PM

The drop tube helps significantly.
Posted by: IAyoteHNTR

Re: 6x45 Load data - 02/08/14 08:54 PM

I am using some IMR 4320 for my 6X45 which is about identical to Varget as far as burn rate but the powder grains are a tad smaller and fit into the case a little better than Varget. I still get a little crunch but not as much as the Varget.

Right now the 3 powders I'm going to do some testing with for 55-95 grain bullets in my 20" 1-9 twist BHW barrel is H335, H4895, and IMR4320 and I hope to have some results soon......if this arctic cold would ever decide to leave! sneaky2
Posted by: 6x45 Fan

Re: 6x45 Load data - 02/08/14 09:10 PM

Funny that Accurate tells me that the AA2460 is too slow for the 6x45, but it's marginally slower than their own 2230. Makes me curious!!
Posted by: 6x45 Fan

Re: 6x45 Load data - 02/08/14 11:37 PM

How do you post pictures here?
Posted by: Jack Roberts

Re: 6x45 Load data - 02/09/14 01:01 AM

You have to host them somewhere on the internet and make a link to them. The FAQ covers it.

Jack
Posted by: eneranch

Re: 6x45 Load data - 02/09/14 08:38 AM

I sent an email to Accurate about loads for the 6x4, here is their response:

We suggest the following.
Caliber: 6mm-223Rem/6mm x 45.
Barrel length: 20”
For 16” barrel reduce velocity by 5% to 6% ca 120 -150 Fps.
For 24” barrel increase velocity 3% to 4% 90 -110 Fps)
Powder: Accurate --- 2015®.
Bullet weight: 60 grains.
Start load: 23.5 grains (2600 – 2700 ft/p/sec)
Maximum load: 26.0 grains (2950 – 3050 Ft/p/sec). Full case/compressed.
Bullet weight: 70 grains.
Start load: 22.5 grains (2500 – 260 ft/p/sec)
Maximum load: 25.0 grains (2800 – 2900 Ft/p/sec). Full case/compressed.
Bullet weight: 75-80 grains.
Start load: 22.0 grains (2400 – 2500 ft/p/sec)
Maximum load: 24.5 grains (2700 – 2800 Ft/p/sec). Full case.
Bullet weight: 85 grains.
Start load: 21.6 grains (2300 – 2400 ft/p/sec)
Maximum load: 24.0 grains (2600 – 2700 Ft/p/sec). Full case.
Bullet weight: 95 grains.
Start load: 20.7 grains (2275 – 2375 ft/p/sec)
Maximum load: 23.0 grains (2500 – 2600 Ft/p/sec). Full case.
Bullet weight: 100 grains.
Start load: 20.0 grains (2225 – 2325 ft/p/sec)
Maximum load: 22.3 grains (2425 – 2525 Ft/p/sec). Full case.

Powder: Accurate --- 2230®.
Bullet weight: 55 grains.
Start load: 26.6 grains (2875 – 2975 ft/p/sec)
Maximum load: 29.5 grains (3250 – 3350 Ft/p/sec). Full case/compressed.
Bullet weight: 60 grains.
Start load: 26.1 grains (2800 – 2900 ft/p/sec)
Maximum load: 29.0 grains (3075 – 3175 Ft/p/sec). Full case/compressed.
Bullet weight: 70 grains.
Start load: 25.3 grains (2650 – 2750 ft/p/sec)
Maximum load: 28.0 grains (2900 – 3000 Ft/p/sec). Full case/compressed.
Bullet weight: 75-80 grains.
Start load: 24.3 grains (2550 – 2650 ft/p/sec)
Maximum load: 27.0 grains (2850 – 2950 Ft/p/sec). Full case/compressed.
Bullet weight: 85 grains.
Start load: 23.4 grains (2500 – 2600 ft/p/sec)
Maximum load: 26.0 grains (2700 – 2800 Ft/p/sec). Full case/compressed.
NOTES:
It’ important to note that SAFETY is our prime concern therefore we strongly recommend.
1. TO ALWAYS BEGIN LOADING AT THE RECOMMENDED MINIMUM “START” LOAD and develop loads in 2% increments towards the MAXIMUM load.
2. If at all possible, measure the velocity and correlate with our data.


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Posted by: 6x45 Fan

Re: 6x45 Load data - 02/09/14 11:11 AM

Great info!! Thanks.
Posted by: 6x45 Fan

Re: 6x45 Load data - 02/09/14 12:08 PM

After looking at A LOT of data, I'll try the 8208 for the 80 grainers and find some AA2200 or AA2015 for the 58 grainers.
Posted by: 6x45 Fan

Re: 6x45 Load data - 02/15/14 04:54 PM

Anyone trying LT-32? My local shop has a bunch of it.
Posted by: cedarcreekcooner

Re: 6x45 Load data - 03/08/14 09:17 PM

Does anyone shoot the 80 blitz sierras? #1515 I think. I played with some today
Posted by: WWAYote

Re: 6x45 Load data - 03/15/14 10:54 PM

Any reason that 6x45 load data is held to around 50k psi?

If loading for an AR 6x45 with 5.56 brass, a system with max avg SAAMI pressure spec of 62k psi, wouldn't one be able to safely approach similar pressure levels?
Posted by: eneranch

Re: 6x45 Load data - 03/16/14 04:11 PM

I imagine this would only be applicable if you have a Firearm chambered for 5.56 NATO, not 223 REM.

Here are the SAAMI Specs

Here is a good write-up about the difference

5.56 NATO vs. 223 REM
Posted by: pahntr760

Re: 6x45 Load data - 03/16/14 04:53 PM

Originally Posted By: eneranch
I imagine this would only be applicable if you have a Firearm chambered for 5.56 NATO, not 223 REM.

Here are the SAAMI Specs

Here is a good write-up about the difference

5.56 NATO vs. 223 REM


And what does any of this silliness have to do with a 6x45?
Posted by: eneranch

Re: 6x45 Load data - 03/16/14 05:02 PM

If you had a rifle with a 5.56 NATO chamber and a 6mm tube, then it most likely could be loaded to NATO pressures.
Given the fact that the 6x45 is based on a 223 Remington chamber, then the lower pressures are applicable.

Originally Posted By: WWAYote
Any reason that 6x45 load data is held to around 50k psi?

If loading for an AR 6x45 with 5.56 brass, a system with max avg SAAMI pressure spec of 62k psi, wouldn't one be able to safely approach similar pressure levels?


Just because you are loading 5.56 brass does not mean your chamber can handle pressures of 62k psi.
Posted by: pahntr760

Re: 6x45 Load data - 03/16/14 09:35 PM


How exactly does one get a chamber differing from the tube? Yours talking perfect nonsense.

There is no difference in 223 stamped and 5.56 designated brass. No more than any normal difference between manufactures and lots of brass. The only difference, sometimes, can be the leade between the 2. The 6x45 is nowhere considered in the 223/5.56 nonsense.
Posted by: WWAYote

Re: 6x45 Load data - 03/16/14 10:02 PM

Strength of the components / barrel / bolt is what I was referring to. A 6x45 AR using 5.56 brass should be just as safe @ 62k psi as a 5.56 AR using 5.56 brass @ 62k psi.

The root of my curiousity came from studying 5.56 load data with max avg pressures around 60k vs. 6x45 data with max avg pressures around 50k. My assumption was 6x45 data was built around acceptable pressure for its"parent" case - .223 rather than its "step parent" case 5.56.
Posted by: WWAYote

Re: 6x45 Load data - 03/16/14 10:09 PM

Just curious why the limit on max avg pressure of 6x45? Variety of rifles so chambered? Two ARs chambered for 5.56 and 6x45 using identical components except for bullet should be safe at safe pressure levels, right?
Posted by: midwestpredator

Re: 6x45 Load data - 03/16/14 10:23 PM

Originally Posted By: WWAYote
Strength of the components / barrel / bolt is what I was referring to. A 6x45 AR using 5.56 brass should be just as safe @ 62k psi as a 5.56 AR using 5.56 brass @ 62k psi.

The root of my curiousity came from studying 5.56 load data with max avg pressures around 60k vs. 6x45 data with max avg pressures around 50k. My assumption was 6x45 data was built around acceptable pressure for its"parent" case - .223 rather than its "step parent" case 5.56.



Don't worry about it, there is no difference between the 2 cases. Start low and work up until you find your load or you see pressure signs on the case/primer.
Posted by: midwestpredator

Re: 6x45 Load data - 03/16/14 10:36 PM

Just go up the PM search engine and type in 223 vs 5.56 and read until you are sick of reading.

223 vs 5.56

The link below is a pretty good reference and was pulled from the discussion above

5.56 in a 223 chamber
Posted by: eneranch

Re: 6x45 Load data - 03/17/14 09:21 AM



Originally Posted By: midwestpredator
Don't worry about it, there is no difference between the 2 cases. Start low and work up until you find your load or you see pressure signs on the case/primer.


^^+1 ; When I see flattened primers & extractor/ejector marks, I know I've reached the top end.
Posted by: eneranch

Re: 6x45 Load data - 04/01/14 04:21 PM

For those using IMR8208XBR, are you seeing consistent velocities?
Posted by: Mario A

Re: 6x45 Load data - 05/09/14 06:11 PM

I just finished building a 26" Savage 11 in 6x45mm, and IMR has load data for the cartridge online. I was able to work up a 90gr Berger VLD Target over 25.5 grains of 8208 XBR (I haven't chrono'd it yet). I tried seating the bullet up to the lands and I think it was a bit much for this load. All of the .223 once fired brass had slight bulging at the webbing and the primers showed a little flowing. HOWEVER, all of the 5.56 Nato brass that was converted had no signs of excessive pressure on the case, but the primer still had the outie belly button (from flowing). I was able to score a 0.132" three shot group at 100 yards (after subtracting bullet diameter). I have a picture, but I'm having image hosting issues...

I'll see if I can get this load chronographed and we can get some numbers on paper.

Here is a summary:
Rifle:
Savage 11 Action (with Accutrigger)
McGowen 26" Chromoly barrel - 1 in 9" twist
Basic savage 11 tupperware stock
Nikon Prostaff 4-12x40 Mil Dot

Load:
Brass - PMC Bronze .223/Lake City 5.56
Bullet - Berger 90gr VLD Target
Powder - IMR 8208XBR - 25.5gr
Primer - CCI BR-4
Posted by: lpreddick

Re: 6x45 Load data - 10/15/14 10:00 AM

i'm new to this forum since i had a beautiful and very accurate 6x45 bolt gun made: kreiger 13.5 tw, stiller predator V lprb, jewell 1.5 oz in a #11 shurley bros thumbhole laminate. an 8-32 sightron 1/8 min tgt dot scope is the icing on the cake. i downloaded the load data and really appreciate the work done to provide this data. i loaded new brass with n133 and a 62 gr knight and shots 2,3, and 4 printed in the ones! i have never had a gun so blasted accurate!!! just about every combo of bullet and powder shoot small hole but n133 seems to be the most accurate. currently trying LT 32 and it has promise. i have a problem(posted on the 6 MMBR site also). my redding 6x45 fl and neck die leaves .003 of runout in the neck. neck expansion in the die or with a wilson neck xp doesn't correct it. i now run the brass into a redding .223 body die(brings the neck to .257) then exp with a wilson 6mm mandrel and the r/o is gone. anybody with the same problem? any suggestions? thanks.
Posted by: lpreddick

Re: 6x45 Load data - 11/21/14 09:10 AM

LT 32, 25.1 and 25.3 .020 into the lands at 3330 fps and it shoots in the ones and the lower load shot in the zeros! using 65 gr fb conaway bullets. i'll have to try the LT 32 with other lighter bullets even though n133 works very well also.
Posted by: lpreddick

Re: 6x45 Load data - 12/02/14 07:24 PM

Would like a little more speed with the very accurate 65s and recall how my 223 ackley increased my 223 performance. Has anybody any experience with a 6x45 Ackley improved? I expanded the neck of a 223 Ackley and seated a bullet and it looks good. Case volume with LT 32 increased almost 2 grains. Anybody done this? Thanks.
Posted by: GLShooter

Re: 6x45 Load data - 12/04/14 09:09 AM

Originally Posted By: lpreddick
Would like a little more speed with the very accurate 65s and recall how my 223 ackley increased my 223 performance. Has anybody any experience with a 6x45 Ackley improved? I expanded the neck of a 223 Ackley and seated a bullet and it looks good. Case volume with LT 32 increased almost 2 grains. Anybody done this? Thanks.


The Ackley approach might be intersting but I wonder if the gains will be worthwhile vs cost, silly concept, in performance. A rule of thumb is that for every 4% increase in case volume you realize about a 1% increase in velocity. Not hard and fast just a guesstamete. You are gainging right on 8% in volume so by that rule you are looking at 60-70 FPS.

You might post up in the reloading area. If most guys are like me they don't look here much even though I own four of them.

Greg
Posted by: ab_bentley

Re: 6x45 Load data - 12/25/14 12:24 PM



Adam
Posted by: eneranch

Re: 6x45 Load data - 12/25/14 12:42 PM

Good group, just under 0.6moa ; just curious about the 138 yds ??
Posted by: ab_bentley

Re: 6x45 Load data - 12/25/14 01:47 PM

Originally Posted By: eneranch
Good group, just under 0.6moa ; just curious about the 138 yds ??



Well, I had a range set up for testing. Then we built a house, right at the end of the range. On that house is a deck and being that I hate sunshine, rain, snow other various Ohio weather scenarios I put the bench on the deck, which was 38yds further back smile I went with it.

This was also my first load choice for the 6x45. It took me longer to make the target and put the reloading equipment away than to find a load that shot.

Adam
Posted by: topweldor1

Re: 6x45 Load data - 12/28/14 05:06 PM

Went through this whole post lots of good info. I can't seem to get the pdf, it take me to a buckammo page. Am I doing something wrong? Thanks in advance for any help. I am looking for a good 100 gr load for hunting.
Posted by: eneranch

Re: 6x45 Load data - 12/29/14 09:44 AM

Originally Posted By: topweldor1
Went through this whole post lots of good info. I can't seem to get the pdf, it take me to a buckammo page. Am I doing something wrong? Thanks in advance for any help. I am looking for a good 100 gr load for hunting.


PM me your email & I'll send it to you.


Posted by: topweldor1

Re: 6x45 Load data - 12/30/14 07:33 PM

Sent pm , Thanks
Posted by: IAyoteHNTR

Re: 6x45 Load data - 01/09/15 12:17 AM

A quick piece of ^X45 load data to share.

6X45 20" BHW barreled AR-15
Winchester brass trimmed to 1.755"
WSR primer
27.2 grains of H335 powder
58 grain 6MM Hornady V-Max
Overall Cartridge Length 2.230"
Average chrono speed 3095 fps
Average 100 yard 5 shot groups .850"

This is my go to coyote load zeroed @ 200 yards, 1" high @ 100 yards.
Posted by: topweldor1

Re: 6x45 Load data - 01/17/15 05:49 PM

I will have to try it . H335 is scarce a hens teeth out here.
Posted by: Fencepost

Re: 6x45 Load data - 02/12/15 10:24 AM

Has anyone explored IMR4227 as a powder for the 6x45? I used to load .222 with it and was wondering if it would be suitable for 55 gr bullets.
Posted by: eneranch

Re: 6x45 Load data - 02/12/15 05:41 PM

I think IMR4227 is too fast; I've shot IMR4198 with good results
Posted by: Fencepost

Re: 6x45 Load data - 02/13/15 06:37 AM

Thanks for the reply.
Posted by: RobUSMC

Re: 6x45 Load data - 07/23/15 04:20 PM

Hey guys! I know this is an old post, however I found it while doing some research of my own on the 6x45 I'm starting to build.
I also am working on a 17x223! That's the reason for the post.
Does anyone out there have the low down on forming the brass for the 17x223? I have found nothing on line and have no idea where to look next.
I figure that it is similar to forming the 6x45, but I'd like to hear it from some guys who have one.

Thanks for any and all help!!!
RobUSMC
Posted by: 3DHUSKER

Re: 6x45 Load data - 07/23/15 07:17 PM

RobUSMC

What is wrong with the info from your first thread?

http://www.predatormastersforums.com/for...826#Post2847826
Posted by: cb4017

Re: 6x45 Load data - 08/02/15 12:10 PM

Morning Gents. I've been lurking for awhile. I've got a couple of questions on the 6x45 and figured this was the place to ask.

Has anyone worked up some loads with AR-Comp? It's one of the few powders available locally and seems like it would be usable in 6x45.

Any working links or way to obtain the latest version of the 6x45 load date pdf?

Thanks!
Cliff
Posted by: RobUSMC

Re: 6x45 Load data - 08/22/15 06:13 PM

Cliff,
I don't have anything in the way of AR Comp, however I'll be testing some IMR tomorrow if that would help? Ill post it here when I get the results back! Wont help with the AR Comp but might give you some other options.

Rob
Posted by: RobUSMC

Re: 6x45 Load data - 08/23/15 08:34 PM

Cliff
Sorry, but my day at the range did not turn out as planned. We did go, but shortly after the 50yd (see if your on paper test) life went bad. After moving to the 100yd line, I found that the rifle would not group at all. We are talking 6" to 8" groups! Not 100% on what the problem is, however I feel that it is a glass issue. I through another scope on it and will do a take 2 next weekend. I hope to have that data posted after that! Everything else about the rifle was great, except I just cant hit crap! Haha story of my life.
Rob
Posted by: RobUSMC

Re: 6x45 Load data - 08/23/15 08:37 PM

Sorry man, brain fart on my part! All info was great and I thank all for it! still working out the bugs on how to work this site. Old people!

Rob
Posted by: BR Marksman

Re: 6x45 Load data - 09/12/15 10:17 PM

I'm trying to decide what brass I should use. I picked up some new Winchester 223 brass, but I'm wondering if that will limit the pressures and speed I can get out of this round. Would I be better off getting some 5.56x45mm brass to use instead?
Posted by: eneranch

Re: 6x45 Load data - 09/13/15 09:27 AM

I don't think it will make a difference.
Posted by: cb4017

Re: 6x45 Load data - 09/16/15 01:26 AM

Originally Posted By: RobUSMC
Sorry man, brain fart on my part! All info was great and I thank all for it! still working out the bugs on how to work this site. Old people!

Rob


Rob, any data is gratefully accepted. Did you ever get your IMR loads sorted out?
Posted by: Yoda-X

Re: 6x45 Load data - 09/16/15 02:23 PM

I just built my first 6x45 and have about 100 rounds loaded with 85gr Barnes TSX. Working on some loads now for Vmax's, and some Nosler BT. Primary powder so far has been 8208.
Posted by: RobUSMC

Re: 6x45 Load data - 09/16/15 08:31 PM

Cliff
I just got some new glass for it and reloaded 95gr Nosler Ballistic tip that didn't do so great in my rifle. Best group was around 1 inch. I ordered another box of 87gr V-Max and as well a box of 75gr V-Max. Worked up some test loads this week with IMR 4895, 8208, and 3031. Ill be heading to New York for work for three weeks, but will be all over it once I get back. Ill post the results once I get them down range.
Sorry Bro, works has got me stepping and fetching. Life of a Marine EOD Tech!

Rob
Posted by: Deadeye260

Re: 6x45 Load data - 10/02/15 12:20 AM

Hi Is this list of loads avaliable for email?
I would like to browse thru it..
I put together a 6×45 AR with a AR Stoner 5r barrel from Midway and it's a shooter! I have been running 87gr bthps it groups 5 into around a 1/2" or less @100yrds! I have also ran some 100gr btsp thru it with a modified mag but I haven't tested those for accuracy yet. I am mainly interested in finding a good load for the 80gr ttsx with XBR OR W748.
Posted by: eneranch

Re: 6x45 Load data - 10/02/15 08:45 AM

Hope this link works

6x45 Load Data PDF
Posted by: Deadeye260

Re: 6x45 Load data - 10/05/15 05:15 PM

Originally Posted By: eneranch
Hope this link works

6x45 Load Data PDF


Thank You eneranch!
Posted by: cb4017

Re: 6x45 Load data - 10/08/15 05:55 PM

Originally Posted By: RobUSMC
Cliff
I just got some new glass for it and reloaded 95gr Nosler Ballistic tip that didn't do so great in my rifle. Best group was around 1 inch. I ordered another box of 87gr V-Max and as well a box of 75gr V-Max. Worked up some test loads this week with IMR 4895, 8208, and 3031. Ill be heading to New York for work for three weeks, but will be all over it once I get back. Ill post the results once I get them down range.
Sorry Bro, works has got me stepping and fetching. Life of a Marine EOD Tech!

Rob



Rob, did you get a chance to work your loads yet? I'd be very interested in your results. I have 8208 on hand and 4895 is available locally. BTW, Thanks for what you do. I have much respect for your job.

Cliff
Posted by: Inxslung12

Re: 6x45 Load data - 10/08/15 07:34 PM

My go to is imr 4895
18" krieger Remington 700 action.
80 grain Bergers with 24.5 grains of 4895
2609 fps
.5 moa. Shoots better than my skills are capable of.
Posted by: crowdog7

Re: 6x45 Load data - 10/27/15 09:25 PM

Thank you eneranch!
That's an impressive amount of load data.
Posted by: velvetant

Re: 6x45 Load data - 11/05/15 05:40 PM

24gr H322/Nosler 70gr Varmageddon from my new 22" DTech upper, just under .5" for 5 rounds and 9 out of 10 rounds into a single ragged hole.
Going to see if the coyotes cooperate this Saturday.
Posted by: Aiden12

Re: 6x45 Load data - 11/13/15 05:08 AM

I see very little data using the AA 2230 powder. Is there a particular reason for that or no one simply has played with powder much? Any opinions on this powder? I use it for my 233 rifles.
Posted by: GLShooter

Re: 6x45 Load data - 11/13/15 08:59 AM

Originally Posted By: Aiden12
I see very little data using the AA 2230 powder. Is there a particular reason for that or no one simply has played with powder much? Any opinions on this powder? I use it for my 233 rifles.


Actually there is quite a bit of it. Accurate lists it on their web site. Also AA2230 and X-TERMINATOR are the same powder.

It works well in mine.

Greg
Posted by: endmange

Re: 6x45 Load data - 11/27/15 12:00 PM

Would you be able to help me out with the 6x45 load data too. Every time I try it sends me to the Buck ammo page as well. Thank you.
Posted by: GLShooter

Re: 6x45 Load data - 11/27/15 06:59 PM

Originally Posted By: endmange
Would you be able to help me out with the 6x45 load data too. Every time I try it sends me to the Buck ammo page as well. Thank you.


PM sent.

Greg
Posted by: venatic

Re: 6x45 Load data - 11/27/15 07:13 PM

I mainly use XTerminator in my Bolt gun 6x45 and it is the same as AA2230 as GL noted and there is plenty of data out there.

In My AR I am using N530 right now with the 75-80 gr bullets
Posted by: GLShooter

Re: 6x45 Load data - 11/29/15 04:04 PM

Here's a current file on the 6X45 load dsta:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bzuroq2iOSD7S2JDRFFYMFQtRTg/view?pli=1



Greg
Posted by: cb4017

Re: 6x45 Load data - 12/06/15 10:37 PM

Originally Posted By: GLShooter
Here's a current file on the 6X45 load dsta:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bzuroq2iOSD7S2JDRFFYMFQtRTg/view?pli=1



Greg


Thanks Greg.
Posted by: Win.308stealth

Re: 6x45 Load data - 01/15/16 08:49 PM

Has anyone tried loading the 6x45 subsonics? Recently was able to purchase a suppressor, and currently my upper is @ Mike's from DTech, being threaded for a suppressor. Just can't find any reloading info on loading subsonic.
Posted by: cmatera

Re: 6x45 Load data - 01/18/16 09:00 AM

Forming brass for the 17-223 is a little more (but not much) involved that the 6 x 45. Most guys F/L resize using the .223 die w/o guts, then run thru the .17-223 die with guts. Me, I'm anal, so I run it through a F/L .223 die w/o guts, through a .19-.223 die (got it from James Calhoon) w/o guts, and then through the .17-.223 die with guts. I prefer to step my brass down from .22 to .19 to .17, instead of .22 to .17. The 6 x 45 is a simple run .223 brass through the 6 x 45 die and load.
Posted by: pahntr760

Re: 6x45 Load data - 01/18/16 10:15 PM

Originally Posted By: Win.308stealth
Has anyone tried loading the 6x45 subsonics? Recently was able to purchase a suppressor, and currently my upper is @ Mike's from DTech, being threaded for a suppressor. Just can't find any reloading info on loading subsonic.


Look at similar weight 223 sub sonic loads as your basis.
Posted by: Win.308stealth

Re: 6x45 Load data - 01/29/16 09:59 AM

Originally Posted By: pahntr760


Look at similar weight 223 sub sonic loads as your basis.


Thanks, I will look into that.
Posted by: Bob_Atl

Re: 6x45 Load data - 01/29/16 10:24 AM

Trail Boss (if you can find some): examples
223, 55 gr pill, 4 gr powder => 1003 fps (an expensive 22LR!)
With Trail Boss, it won't over-pressure.
The other end is the problem, under-pressure where pill gets stuck in the barrel.
With Trail Boss, starting loads are high (supersonic)and work down to subsonic.
Subsonic loads hit a couple feet low at 100 yards vs laser loads, fwiw...
Posted by: Arne D Helgesen

Re: 6x45 Load data - 01/30/16 05:00 PM

Hi. Great reading! Cant get any of the links working.
Could anyone please assist an helpless Norwegian? =) Thx
Posted by: GLShooter

Re: 6x45 Load data - 01/30/16 05:11 PM

Originally Posted By: Arne D Helgesen
Hi. Great reading! Cant get any of the links working.
Could anyone please assist an helpless Norwegian? =) Thx


I know many are dead. This one works for me

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bzuroq2iOSD7S2JDRFFYMFQtRTg/view?pli=1


Greg
Posted by: Arne D Helgesen

Re: 6x45 Load data - 01/30/16 05:33 PM

Thanks!

Got some loads up for testing tomorrow.
24" Lilja
80 grs BTTSX / without the tip.
VV N530
23.5
24.0
24.5

After reading all 14 pages and some burn rates I believe I have started a bit low. Was hoping for 2800fps+
Posted by: cb4017

Re: 6x45 Load data - 02/25/16 10:27 AM

I was able to run some loads over a chronograph a few days ago. These were fired in an AR built around an AR-Stoner 20" 1-8 5R barrel.

First loads were AR-Comp behind an 85 gr Sierra BTHP GK bullet. LC cases and Tula SRM primer. 2.260 OAL
24 gr - 2669 fps, 40 ES
24.5 gr - 2714 fps, 29 ES
25 gr - 2740, 17 ES

25 gr H335 - 2728 fps, 32 ES

The AR-Comp 25 gr load is slightly compressed. Just starts to show slight signs of pressure.

90 gr Sierra FMJBT, LC Cases, Tula SRM primer, 2.260 OAL
22.1 gr 2200 - 2585 fps, 25 ES

55 gr Nosler Varmageddon, LC cases, Tula SRM primer, 2.260 OAL
26 gr 2200 - 3263 fps, 22 ES
This load is mild. It would not lock the bolt back on an empty mag a couple of times. Lots of fun. Will blow up anything it hits.

These loads are safe in my rifle Usual disclaimers apply.
Posted by: toasty

Re: 6x45 Load data - 02/25/16 10:58 AM

See ya all on a different forum.
Posted by: cb4017

Re: 6x45 Load data - 02/28/16 10:56 PM

So I was going through my powder stash and noticed a couple of pounds of Alliant 1200-R left over when I used to play with the .277 WLV. It's supposed to be close to AA2200 in burning rate.

Anyone try 1200-R in a 6x45 yet?
Posted by: toasty

Re: 6x45 Load data - 03/09/16 12:31 PM

See ya all on a different forum.
Posted by: Black Beard

Re: 6x45 Load data - 04/01/16 08:40 PM

24.3gr H335
84gr Sierra HPBT Game king
COAL 2.260

.4" 5 SHOT groups at 100 yds
20" black hole weaponry bbl
Posted by: Black Beard

Re: 6x45 Load data - 05/24/16 01:20 AM

Have you guys used any of the Enduron powders yet? I just got some to try w/ my 223 and 6.5 CM.
I will have to work up a load for my 6x45 and report...
Posted by: DGW

Re: 6x45 Load data - 07/01/16 06:22 PM

FWIW, loaded up some IMR4166 Enduron with Nosler 70 grain bullets for my 6x45 rifle a couple of days ago. Meant to shoot them today, but didn't. However, I have had some decent results for accuracy with the IMR4166 in my reloads for the .223 and .308. Haven't used the powder much....kinda pricey compared to other powders I normally prefer.
Posted by: cb4017

Re: 6x45 Load data - 07/26/16 08:29 PM

Yesterday I decided to run a few different 6x45 loads over a chronograph. My goal was to load some different powders I had on hand to get baseline pressure and velocities. I chose loads that I thought would be safe in my gun.

These loads were fired through an AR-15 built around a Midway AR Stoner 5R 20” barrel. None of the loads showed signs of excessive pressure and seem to have room for development. All were loaded to mag length, 2.260”. Mixed cases and Tula SR Magnum primers. All functioned perfectly in my gun.

Conditions were not great. Temp was 99 degrees. (HOT)

I only used two bullets. First was the Sierra 90 gr GK FMJBT. My goal was around 2,600 fps with this bullet. No problem.

1. 22.1 gr Alliant 1200-R, Avg velocity 2554 fps, ES 73.7
2. 24 gr Varget, Avg velocity 2486 fps , ES 38.1
3. 23.6 gr 8208 XBR, Average velocity 2622 fps, ES 34.7
4. 24 gr TAC, Average velocity 2591 fps, ES 9.4
5. 24 gr AR-Comp, Average velocity 2662 fps, ES 62

The low ES of the TAC load was a pleasant surprise. Think that will be the first powder I work with. It’s also a great powder for my 77 gr 5.56 loads.

I also fired a few rounds using the 55 gr Nosler Varmageddon. This bullet is fun and blows up anything it hits.

1. 26 gr 1200-R, Average Velocity 3277 fps, ES 12

Hope this is helpful.
Posted by: GLShooter

Re: 6x45 Load data - 07/26/16 08:48 PM

Those look good. Speeds are reasonable. For grins could you post up your case volume average on three same HS fired cases. I want to compare my Winchesters to others.

Greg
Posted by: cb4017

Re: 6x45 Load data - 07/27/16 01:30 AM

Originally Posted By: GLShooter
Those look good. Speeds are reasonable. For grins could you post up your case volume average on three same HS fired cases. I want to compare my Winchesters to others.

Greg


Sure Greg. The majority of my cases are LC surplus and RP. This was the first time I tried measuring case capacity. I weighed the cases empty then filled with water. The weights listed are the difference.

Average for the LC was 32.47 gr. Average for the RP was 32.27

How does the Winchester compare?
Posted by: GLShooter

Re: 6x45 Load data - 07/27/16 11:44 AM

Originally Posted By: cb4017
Originally Posted By: GLShooter
Those look good. Speeds are reasonable. For grins could you post up your case volume average on three same HS fired cases. I want to compare my Winchesters to others.

Greg


Sure Greg. The majority of my cases are LC surplus and RP. This was the first time I tried measuring case capacity. I weighed the cases empty then filled with water. The weights listed are the difference.

Average for the LC was 32.47 gr. Average for the RP was 32.27

How does the Winchester compare?


Thank you so much. You have no idea how much those numbers mean to me. I'm doing a number crunch with QL and needed some real world numbers vs the "computer model" stuff. BTW my Winchester commercial cases are 32.8.

Greg
Posted by: firefox117

Re: 6x45 Load Question - 09/09/16 11:17 PM

Thank you. I will be adding this to my collection and sharing it as well.
Posted by: Harley1340

Re: 6x45 Load Question - 09/20/16 08:56 PM

As you can tell, I am new on the site, But have been lurking and doing quite a bit of reading..

I have aquired a 16.5" contender barrel in 6-45 an my question is about dies.. Any brand better than other do i "need" a crimp die ?? I do not plan on building an AR at this time..

Also am looking for load data for 16.5" ,Does it exist ????

Regards,Harley
Posted by: reddog964

Re: 6x45 Load Question - 09/20/16 09:35 PM

Welcome to PM Harley

I use the Redding dies and a crimp die is not needed!! Just pick your bullet and powder and use the normal data, barrel length makes no difference. just work up a load as normal.
Posted by: reddog964

Re: 6x45 Load Question - 09/20/16 09:36 PM

Welcome to PM Harley

I use the Redding dies and a crimp die is not needed!! Just pick your bullet and powder and use the normal data, barrel length makes no difference. just work up a load as normal.

XBR8208 and Benchmark are good powders for the 6x45
Posted by: firefox117

Re: 6x45 Load Question - 09/20/16 09:39 PM

Originally Posted By: Harley1340
As you can tell, I am new on the site, But have been lurking and doing quite a bit of reading..

I have aquired a 16.5" contender barrel in 6-45 an my question is about dies.. Any brand better than other do i "need" a crimp die ?? I do not plan on building an AR at this time..

Also am looking for load data for 16.5" ,Does it exist ????

Regards,Harley


Someone please correct me if I am wrong.

No, you wont find data for the barrel, just the load itself (i.e. xxx grains of powder using xxx grain bullet). What you may find is someone who shot those loads out of that barrel, and they can at least tell you how fast and what type of accuracy they are shooting. I have never seen a load specific to a barrel, its all standard to they type of bullet and powder.

As far as crimp (and its been a while since I've look) most dies that I know of have the crimp function. When setting it up, you either set it up to crimp or not to crimp, that's your choice. If you're building a bolt action rifle, don't worry about crimping them. I have hundreds of 6x45's loaded up, not a single crimp on any of them, and no issues.

Brands for dies are all personal preference as well. I have a mix of RCBS and Hornady dies, but you also have Lee, Redding and a few other brands out there. Personally, I like RCBS, but other may tell you they suck and go with brand X instead. If you don't know what brand to get, I'm sure plenty of people here will offer their opinions, or you can take a look around the internet, lots of information to read up on them.
Posted by: Harley1340

Re: 6x45 Load Question - 09/20/16 10:50 PM

reddog & firefox, Thank you for the replies...As i mentioned, this is a 16.5" barrel so i have the option of using it as a pistol or carbine, I will for now be using as a carbine as it will be lightweight and easy to manage while carrying...Im not interested in "hot" loads,, im looking for accuracy out to about 250-300 mainly for coyote an fox... And possibly an ear shot on a hog if the opportunity should arise....
Posted by: GLShooter

Re: 6x45 Load data - 10/03/16 05:35 PM

Here's a current file on the 6X45 load data as the posting is five pages back.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bzuroq2iOSD7S2JDRFFYMFQtRTg/view?pli=1



Greg
Posted by: ToddMNicoll

Re: 6x45 Load data - 10/25/16 02:37 AM

I'm looking for 6x45 load data, specifically for 90 gr Berger BTHP match, preferably from Bergers manual. Can anybody help me out?
Posted by: gmww

Re: 6x45 Load data - 01/17/17 09:17 PM

Any suggestions on a load for the Nosler BT in 55gr. using H335. The downloaded pdf of 6x45 loads gives two loads using H335 for Sierra 55gr. bullet. I was thinking of starting there.

Thanks
Posted by: gmww

Re: 6x45 Load data - 03/09/17 01:10 PM

Well I found a nice load with H335 and the Nosler 55 gr Ballistic tip. The average came out to 3245 fps. Should work on ground squirrels way out there. I was within the posted data for H335. I'm using a 24" barrel on a Rem. 700 action.
Posted by: DGW

Re: 6x45 Load data - 06/20/17 03:16 PM

FWIW, have pretty much settled on using 25.8 gr of Ramshot Exterminator with Nosler 70 gr FB or BT Varmageddon bullets in my 6x45 rifle. Very good accuracy (3/8" 100 yd groups typical) for me with this load. Don't have a chronograph, but think this load is well over 2900 fps.

Dropped a nice size young boar pig with this load a couple of weeks ago at 100 yds.
Put the Nosler 70 gr FB between its eyes with a straight on head shot....the pig immediately dropped.
Posted by: Freeman Weems

Re: 6x45 Load data - 07/06/17 09:24 PM

I have an AR15 chambered in 6X45. Trying to work up a load for 70 grain bullet using BLC-2. The load I am starting with is 28.5 grains with a Nosler 70 grain BT. Anybody shooting BLC-2 in their AR?
Posted by: Huffranger

Re: 6x45 Load data - 09/15/17 08:21 PM

Thanks guys for setting up this thread !! The information here is a great help getting started with my first 6x45.
Posted by: JDF_GSP

Re: 6x45 Load data - 10/24/17 01:18 PM

I will be trying some Accurate 2200 and 55 gr nosler ballistic tips from a 16 inch ar-15 (suppressed) this weekend. Hoping for some decent velocity, I will update when I get out.
Posted by: JDF_GSP

Re: 6x45 Load data - 10/30/17 10:09 AM

Was able to get out yesterday and test loads. 6x45 16" x-caliber ar15 barrel with suppressor. With accurate 2200 and 55gr nosler ballistic tips I was able to get up over 3300 fps at just over max published load data but settled at just under the max and 3223 fps. Everything shot under 1" and the best was just under 0.2". COAL 2.26"
Posted by: cturne08

Re: 6x45 Load data - 11/22/17 04:42 PM

I've dialed mine in with 25.8 gr. of Benchmark under the 85 gr. Sierra HPBT's. Out of my 20" Shilen Select barrel groups are .25"-ish at 100 yds.
Posted by: TXHUNTER90

Re: 6x45 Load data - 12/04/17 12:34 PM

Very interested....
Posted by: EFR

Re: 6x45 Load data - 12/16/17 09:47 PM

I just tried some AA2200 with Nosler 55 gr Varmageddon, tipped. Phenomenal velocity, but not the accuracy I get with Exterminator.

Barrel is 18" Black Hole Weaponry

27.8 gr of AA2200 was 1"+ for 3/100 yds, velocity of 3330 +/- 20 fps.
28.0 gr of AA2200 was 1.75" for 3/100 yds, with velocity from 3380-3425 fps. I think the barrel was not long enough to burn all the powder.

28.4 gr Exterminator was between ragged hole and under 1", with velocity of 3130 +/- 12 fps.

I really like the idea of the extra speed with AA200, but accuracy is final. I just loaded up a few more for a range trip tomorrow to give AA2200 another chance, but most likely will keep the Exterminator load
Posted by: tovaert

Re: 6x45 Load data - 12/24/17 02:29 PM

Hi All. I'm new to the 6x45. Here's what I built as an NRA match rifle (200, 300, 600 yd matches) and possibly for hunting: Lower: Magpul UBR Gen1 stock, Geissele HS Match trigger, Geissele 42 spring, H2 buffer, Tubb grip. Keystone-built 26" 1:7.5 Bartlein 5R stainless heavy-contour barrel, +2" (non-adjustable) gas system, AT3 Tactical 14" free-float handguard, AMBI (cutout) bolt release, Keystone one-piece 30mm scope mount, Minox ZE-5i 5-25 x 56 scope w/German #4 reticle, D&H Tactical 10-round (short magazine)

New Lapua .223 Match brass, neck expanded using an oversized Sinclair 6mm expander mandrel and graphite lubricant. Then, a Redding .223 FL bushing sizing die using wax lube. I don't insert any bushings, as the neck tension is sufficient after using the Sinclair mandrel. Lastly, ream primer pockets and trim to 1.745." In the Whidden gauge, they read 0.000" (Go) to -0.001". Primer: Rem 7-1/2. Powder dispensed with an RCBS Chargemaster and adjusted with an analytical balance for testing. Some preliminary results (LabRadar, 50F, 100 yds):

H4895, 70gr SMK, 2.30" OAL for (cutout) magazine feed
- 26.0gr, 3008fps
- 26.3gr, 3059fps
- 26.6gr, 3070fps
- 26.9gr, 3104fps
- 27.2gr, 3148fps
No pressure signs observed.

H4895, 90gr Berger Match Target, 2.31" OAL for (cutout) magazine feed
- 24.0gr, 2636fps
- 24.3gr, 2685fps
- 24.6gr, 2720fps
- 24.9gr, 2745fps (over-pressure signs: some primer cratering and light extractor marks)
- 25.2gr, 2752fps "
Tough to get more than 25gr in the case and seat this bullet, for a 2.31" OAL

H4895, 95gr SMK, 0.005" back of rifling (single load)
- 24.2gr, 2671fps
- 24.5gr, 2701fps

Varget, 107gr SMK, 0.005" back of rifling (single load)
- 25.5gr, 2615fps
- 25.8gr, 2653fps
- 26.0gr, 2674fps
- 26.2gr, 2689fps (over-pressure signs: some primer cratering and light extractor marks)
Was looking for 2700fps.

Shot a 591-24X in an early Fall NRA M-R match (3x300) with the 25.5 Varget, 107 SMK's. First string was 199-11X (90F that day).

Still some problems with the 90 Bergers and 70 SMK's not going fully into battery (jamming with about 1/8" - 1/16" to go) when mag fed. I know that Lapua brass neck thickness is greater...but they single load just fine, partially inserting them into the chamber then dropping the bolt. Neck turn? Go with thinner brass? Suggestions are very welcome...Tim
Posted by: JDF_GSP

Re: 6x45 Load data - 01/02/18 09:32 AM

EFR, were you able to find a load with AA2200 that gave you better accuracy? I think this powder is the ticket for good velocity with 55 grain bullets in the 6x45, but like you said, accuracy is final.
Posted by: BBQ365

Re: 6x45 Load data - 01/05/18 07:49 PM

This is my first post, so be gentle.

I am new to reloading, so forgive me if I should know the answer, but did I understand the charge weights in the table are averages of beginning loads? Is that the powder amount I start with, or should I reduce by a certain amount to start?

And, thank you to all the ones who take the time to post findings/experiences so others, like myself, can learn.
Posted by: rustybucket

Re: 6x45 Load data - 01/11/18 10:38 AM

BBQ, the starting charge weight is the minimum for the particular bullet listed using a certain powder. The starting 10% lower is used for a maximum listed weight. Say a book gives you 45 grains of varget as a maximum load for a 168 grain bullet in a 308 winchester. So your starting load is 10% less of 45 grains. So you start at 40.5 grains and work your way up carefully.
Posted by: rustybucket

Re: 6x45 Load data - 01/11/18 10:45 AM

The 10 percent reduction is if all you have is a maximum charge weight. So you need to start 10% lower. If its confusing look up nosler load data for what you are reloading. Their charts are very easy to use.
Posted by: BBQ365

Re: 6x45 Load data - 01/11/18 09:06 PM

I understand the starting/maximum charge weights, if looking in a manual. My question was about the charge weights listed in the accumulated data table included in this thread.
Posted by: GLShooter

Re: 6x45 Load data - 01/24/18 04:20 PM

CURRENT 6X45 DATA PAGES

6X45 COMPILATION GOOD ON 1-24-18
Posted by: BBQ365

Re: 6x45 Load data - 01/24/18 10:56 PM

Can no one tell me if the charge weights listed are lowest or max?
Posted by: GLShooter

Re: 6x45 Load data - 01/24/18 11:09 PM

Originally Posted By: BBQ365
Can no one tell me if the charge weights listed are lowest or max?


If you mean the Compilation they are all over the map. Many are from loading manuals. A smart man would compare it with current publications to get an idea of what you are dealing with. Crossreference anything and everything you see on the net.

Greg
Posted by: Uncle Jimbo

Re: 6x45 Load data - 02/07/18 12:29 PM

I did some load work up for my 6x45 and thought I would share it here since this thread has been so helpful and comprehensive in the data contained.

Here is the load I settled on.

6x45 AR 20” Olympic Arms 1:10 bbl suppressed

Brass: LC (mixed years)
Primer: CCI 400
Powder: H335 (27.3 grain)
Bullets: 70 grain Sierra BlitzKing
COL: 2.260”
Velocity: 2975 fps (avg of 5 shots measured with Magnetospeed V3)
Accuracy is acceptable for my uses and is under 1 MOA at 100.
Posted by: forty five

Re: 6x45 Load data - 05/07/18 06:02 PM

I got my 6x45 shooting Sierra 70 grain match kings half inch at 100 yards using ramshot tac in a 12.5 inch AR.
My velocity is 2735 average with 10fps ES.
Is this a good load for varmints.
Posted by: jasonprox700

Re: 6x45 Load data - 10/27/18 06:54 AM

Originally Posted By: forty five
I got my 6x45 shooting Sierra 70 grain match kings half inch at 100 yards using ramshot tac in a 12.5 inch AR.
My velocity is 2735 average with 10fps ES.
Is this a good load for varmints.


Yes. I took a coyote this spring with pretty much the exact same set-up. 12" X-Caliber barrel with the 70gr SMK's, but with different powder (I don't have my notes in front of me). Very accurate and handy set-up.
Posted by: Rhett Steele

Re: 6x45 Load data - 12/28/18 06:53 AM

So far with my load development venture for my 6x45 I've tried 70gr TNT, 75 sierra hp, 80 sierra btsp and 87 horn bthp. Best groups are with the 70 tnt. Is there another bullet I should try before settling on this one? I was hoping the 75 would group better but not. I have some horn 75 hp I've not tried yet. Not looking and going off memory, I think 21 grains of IMR 4198 is what grouped best.
Posted by: BBQ365

Re: 6x45 Load data - 12/30/18 08:30 AM

I have had tremendous luck with the Speer 75 gr HP, #1205. Mine also likes the 55 gr tipped varmageddons, but the Speer is my bullet of choice. The only thing I've shot, besides paper, is a ground hog dumb enough to pop up at the range, around the 200 yard target. Unzipped the poor guy.
Posted by: eneranch

Re: 6x45 Load data - 12/30/18 08:59 AM

I've had good luck with the 70gr TNTs & 70gr NBTs out of my 18" AR for both Coyotes & P-dogs.I bought some 58gr V-maxes but haven't got around to working up a load.
Posted by: xringshutr

Re: 6x45 Load data - 01/30/19 01:13 PM

I'm getting really nice accuracy with 85 gr Sierra FBSP. Don't have the load handy, but know I'm using both IMR 8208 and WC844 (H335). I have some 80 gr Win SP's to try, but haven't had time. I too wanted a little heavier bullet. 223 Rem will do everything needed with under 70 gr bullets. 6x45 hits way above it's weight class with 75-85 gr bullets. ; )
Posted by: jsh

Re: 6x45 Load data - 01/30/19 06:55 PM

Getting ready to build on an XP action. I have a fair bunch of 70 grain TNT and 65 grain V max and some odds and ends up to 85 grain. I am thinking a 1-10" twist. Looked for a take off BR barrel and it seems they are still using a bunch of 1-14" twist.
You guys thoughts........
Posted by: Travis224

Re: 6x45 Load data - 03/07/19 12:29 PM

Been running a 16" krieger 6x45 and the 65 grn vmaxes. So far here are my results
H322 - 27grns netted 3100 fps average and 1 ragged hole
H4198 - 25 grns hit 3250 and roughly 3/4 group.
Primers held up for 4 firings with military brass. These are for coyote calling and I seldom recover brass.
Posted by: arlaunch

Re: 6x45 Load data - 03/23/19 02:13 AM

The new Western Powders reloading manual has data for this cartridge.

I just noticed the Sierra load manual does also.

Posted by: highbrow

Re: 6x45 Load data - 03/22/20 06:28 PM

A little late to this cartridge. Just got a Satern Liberty 20” barrel.
Have put about 150 rounds through it so far. Happy with accuracy.
Shooting 105 SMK with 24 gr RL 15 at just under 2500 fps.
These are single load only. Also 85 gr SGK with 25 gr H335 at 2750 fps.
Very happy with this so far. Just a little more info for the database.
Posted by: Jimmy Hoer

Re: 6x45 Load data - 08/04/20 12:19 PM

My familiarity with the 6x45 starts with my use of the contender and the 6TCU.
I've used the TCU for years and just recently got into the 6x45.
Most users of the 6x45 are usually AR shooters.
They require the gases needed to cycle the action.
My loads don't have to do anything but leave the barrel.
I haven't pushed my loads to the 6TCU levels yet as I'm thoroughly impressed at it's accuracy.
I plan on using this for whitetail this fall restricting myself to certain, well-placed shots.
The big game laws here require calibers to be of 23 or better, so I'm a minimalist.
87gr. Spire point+ 24gr. of IMR 8208 XBR = around 2500 fps from 14" barrel
I'd love to see the book when it's compiled.
Thanks,
Jimmy

After custom forearm and grip
Posted by: 22 Chuck

Re: 6x45 Load data - 08/11/20 12:39 AM

How would 6x45 data work w/ 25/45 Sharps--87-100 gr bullets??
Posted by: GLShooter

Re: 6x45 Load data - 08/11/20 10:47 AM

It will work perfectly and you can even bump it up slightly thanks to the bigger expansion ratio.

Greg
Posted by: kfreeze

Re: 6x45 Load data - 10/03/20 03:00 PM

Have any of you used 105-110 grn bullets in the 6×45 with powders slower than bl-c2? Preferably newer more temp stable powders alos. I got a bolt gun too cheap in 6×45 and want to try some heavy bergers in it for something cheap to shoot out to 500 yds. I may have it throated for the heavy stuff and modify my accurate mags so C.O.A.L. isn't an issue.

Thanks,

Kyle
Posted by: desertcj

Re: 6x45 Load data - 10/03/20 09:27 PM

Originally Posted By: kfreeze
Have any of you used 105-110 grn bullets in the 6×45 with powders slower than bl-c2? Preferably newer more temp stable powders alos. I got a bolt gun too cheap in 6×45 and want to try some heavy bergers in it for something cheap to shoot out to 500 yds. I may have it throated for the heavy stuff and modify my accurate mags so C.O.A.L. isn't an issue.

Thanks,

Kyle


I'm interested in the same thing. I've heard of CFE223 and leverevolution being used but they aren't temp stable. Slower than BL-c2 and temp stable, it looks like a long jump to H4350 and it's going to be too slow I'm sure. The closest powder would be Varget.
Posted by: highbrow

Re: 6x45 Load data - 10/05/20 10:06 PM

I have gotten excellent accuracy with 105 Sierras and 25 gr Varget. Velocity was about 2530 out of a 20” AR. Single load only.
Could have gone higher. Was very happy with accuracy out to 550 yards on steel plates.
Posted by: Clayton86

Re: 6x45 Load data - 02/11/21 12:21 AM

Been lurking this post for some time contemplating doing my next AR in 6x45. I’ve pretty much made my mind up and gonna order a barrel soon probably a McGowen going with a 20” and probably 9 twist which is where I’m still up in the air is twist rate. I’ve got 55gr Sierra blitz kings, 62 Barnes varmint grenades and 75 vmax. My 243 shoots the 62s and 75s nicely but I wanna try and go lighter pills for the 6x45 55-65gr preferably.
Posted by: DoubleUp

Re: 6x45 Load data - 02/13/21 09:27 PM

I have a Satern/Liberty barrel in 8 twist, also 20" and it shoots the 55-60 class of bullets fine. Also cleans up very nicely with no coppering. I think they are about $250 currently.
Posted by: 22 Chuck

Re: 6x45 Load data - 08/19/21 02:40 PM

Not the same but any loads for 25/45 Sharps?? Some other website better for that one??

And what about 6.5 /223??

Thank you al'
Posted by: Lst748

Re: 6x45 Load data - 10/01/21 06:45 PM

I know this but just built my first 6x45mm rifle very interested in your data