What price would it take for you to put up the fur?

Posted by: Tbone-AZ

What price would it take for you to put up the fur? - 03/15/17 05:58 PM

I saw some comments on the long range shooters thread, and was thinking about how some say they skin and sell the hides. Others use a cannon cause they don't skin them.

That brings up a question about what price do hides need to be for you to start skinning the coyotes?

I personally don't want to skin a coyote if I am fairly sure that I won't get at least $15 and I really would like $20 or more.

That is just thinking about how long it takes to skin them, store, flesh, sew, wash, clean, and stretch and brush. Not to mention going to the buyer and hoping that you can average enough that it was worth it.

I find that it takes me 1 hour total from start to finish avg to put up a hide.

How about you?
Posted by: AWS

Re: What price would it take for you to put up the fur? - 03/15/17 07:08 PM

I never shoot them without skinning unless they are a mess. Even down south in AZ and NM I skin them and tan them when they are prime, tourist buy them tanned for $60, make them into snowmobile mitts, a vest or throw and you can make money at it.

Even if you don't want to market them yourself, $5. at auction is $5. more than you have leaving them on the ground and putting them up will keep you out of the bars and not in front of the tube.
Posted by: SlickerThanSnot

Re: What price would it take for you to put up the fur? - 03/15/17 07:14 PM

takes a minimum of $30 average for me to put in the work.

but it takes me more than an hour from start to finishing a coyote hide i am proud to let a fur buyer look at. quite a bit more than an hour. lol
Posted by: crittr gittr

Re: What price would it take for you to put up the fur? - 03/15/17 07:36 PM

I get 50 bucks each and all I do is have the scalp with both ears and the bottom jaw. tt2
Posted by: Tbone-AZ

Re: What price would it take for you to put up the fur? - 03/17/17 03:21 PM

ha, nice.. Course, i could see how getting that jaw off is a pain, unless you just use a hatchet and take the whole head.
Posted by: Tbone-AZ

Re: What price would it take for you to put up the fur? - 03/17/17 03:24 PM

Originally Posted By: AWS
I never shoot them without skinning unless they are a mess. Even down south in AZ and NM I skin them and tan them when they are prime, tourist buy them tanned for $60, make them into snowmobile mitts, a vest or throw and you can make money at it.

Even if you don't want to market them yourself, $5. at auction is $5. more than you have leaving them on the ground and putting them up will keep you out of the bars and not in front of the tube.



I got a sewing machine a few years ago that would let me sew hides together for a blanket, and one day when i am not so busy i want to make some throw blankets out of the better pelts. But, i don't have a place to store hides, and don't want to send in a pile to be tanned until i am ready. I have learned that lesson with buying lumber, and hardware. Buying in advance for a future project starts to look more like a hoarder than someone with projects lined up.

I applaud you for the effort, I just don't want to do it if i can't get more for my time. Otherwise i could have done something else with that time.

Thanks for sharing.
Posted by: dozer_xj

Re: What price would it take for you to put up the fur? - 07/10/17 11:17 AM

I am in South Central IL and I have been asking around and most people get $7-$30. I can make about $20 an hour working on peoples cars so I would need to make at least that to make it worth my time. I don't do it mostly because I do not have the knowledge, tools, or place to do it.

I would rather a fawn eater have a 4" hole in it and be dead right there than be worried about the hide.
Posted by: varminter .223

Re: What price would it take for you to put up the fur? - 07/10/17 04:42 PM

I go to work to make money so I can spend it on killing coyotes......Gonna have to be a big price jump for me to skin one;}
I haul mine down to the local taxidermist and throw em out. He can make that money lol!
Posted by: Tbone-AZ

Re: What price would it take for you to put up the fur? - 07/10/17 05:07 PM

i may not skin them if i don't think i can get $20 for each, given how long it takes me to put up.

But, i would be a big advocate for learning and having at least the basic gear. (a couple of stretchers, fleshing knife, a few small pearing type knives, apron, fleshing beam, sewing needles and floss, fur brush, and fur thumb tacks.

I say this from the stand point that it would be a good idea to learn. Try preparing 10 or so to start to get the basics. I don't mind messing up a coyote pelt. I would almost cry if i messed up a bobcat pelt. So, learn on a low cost coyote pelt, in case the prices go shooting up, or you get a bobcat or fox pelt worth some money. I wouldn't want to be learning how if the pelts all of a sudden started to sell of $100 instead of $20.
Posted by: Halbach

Re: What price would it take for you to put up the fur? - 08/05/17 11:06 AM

Pelts in my area we're going for around $50 according to the fur buyer I spoke to. Looking at the auction numbers they had highs in the $150 range for coyotes. I had 8 nice white and silver pelts, no clue what I was doing and ruined all 8. This year I'm gonna kill a few before prime to practice on haha. Got 3 in July but they were all pups.
Posted by: Lungbuster

Re: What price would it take for you to put up the fur? - 09/04/17 11:36 AM

Cut out the middle man ( local fur buyer) and sell straight to the auction and your prices will usually double.

I put up all my fur.
Posted by: ColoradoAlan

Re: What price would it take for you to put up the fur? - 09/10/17 03:18 PM

I've put them up for a $17.00 average. I enjoy putting up fur. I like it more when they are worth more though.
Posted by: EFR

Re: What price would it take for you to put up the fur? - 12/02/17 10:35 AM

I put up every coyote I tag (unless mangy or blown up) and I'll never get enough money to make it worth it. Most of the skins are too nice to leave in the woods. I'm pretty slow skinning; 1.5 hrs to skin (full case skin, split the ears and lips, legs to the dew claw). I then put them out over night to freeze, then flesh and board the next night. At the end of the season, I send them out to Moyle's for tanning. I've given a few away, they come out really nice. I'm trying to get enough to make a bedspread.
Posted by: phutch30

Re: What price would it take for you to put up the fur? - 12/08/17 06:21 PM

Over the yrs Ive put up a lot of MT coyotes for a 25 ave and $10 beaver...its part of the deal and as noted practice makes perfect. If I kill it, I feel its my responsibility to put up the fur. I like doing it, and its not like im working for an hourly wage. I know I make nothing watching tv so the 20-30 min it takes to put up a coyote isn't wasted time or effort IMO
Posted by: Yotarunner

Re: What price would it take for you to put up the fur? - 12/20/17 12:41 PM

Wow I'm amazed at the fluctuation between areas not to mention how little some guys are getting and still willing to put up. I don't put any up myself but friends are getting an avg of 100-130$ at auction. I don't have the facilities to put up myself so I sell whole and am getting an avg of $35.
Posted by: 70sdiver

Re: What price would it take for you to put up the fur? - 12/31/17 09:27 AM

I put most all of them up until they start rubbing.The more you do the quicker it becomes ,sewing them is what I really dislike I shoot most of mine with a .223 so donít have to sew many really been thinking of making a .17/223 upper I average about 50 here in wa state but have had a few hit 80 dollar mark.I wish I lived closer to you Yotarunner I would buy them all lol.
Posted by: azcatter

Re: What price would it take for you to put up the fur? - 09/21/18 11:58 PM

I averaged 35 on the ones from around tucson low was 3 bucks high was 95. It takes me less than 30 min to put up a coyote comes out to 70 dollars a hour kinda stupid not to put up you can't look at it as a single skin only a few may not be worth it but the average on 100 makes it worth while
Posted by: MartyB

Re: What price would it take for you to put up the fur? - 10/07/18 07:02 PM

Originally Posted By: Yotarunner
Wow I'm amazed at the fluctuation between areas not to mention how little some guys are getting and still willing to put up. I don't put any up myself but friends are getting an avg of 100-130$ at auction. I don't have the facilities to put up myself so I sell whole and am getting an avg of $35.



Can you drive across the border to E. Montana with them?

I'll make em avg more than $35usd and you still wont have to skin one. smile
Posted by: mart

Re: What price would it take for you to put up the fur? - 10/25/18 12:16 AM

When I lived in the lower 48, I trapped and called coyotes every year regardless of the price. I put up fur for several callers in the area and did it for half. I handled all the skinning, fur handling and marketing and gave them half of what I got for the furs based on the overall average. A couple of callers griped about the percentage. I told them they were welcome to skin, flesh, sew, stretch, dry, turn and market the hides on their own. The guys who brought me fur on a regular basis loved the arrangement regardless of the price.
Posted by: spotstalkshoot

Re: What price would it take for you to put up the fur? - 10/25/18 07:39 PM

It costs me 8.00 to have a coyote skinned/stretched and shipped to NAFA. About 4-4.50 for raccoon. I still put up my Red fox, they are so easy. Occasionally I trap muskrat, I still put them up. If I don't think a coyote will bring 10.00 it gets tossed, raccoon need to look like for sure 7.50 or it gets sold whole.
Posted by: 6724

Re: What price would it take for you to put up the fur? - 10/28/18 06:12 PM

i get $75 for every hide I keep. I don't keep them unless they are pretty nice.
Fur buyer gets some that are worth double what she pays, and others that are worth half what she pays. It averages out to a happy fur buyer. I also switched to a 17-223 and have almost no complaints about holes anymore.
Posted by: MartyB

Re: What price would it take for you to put up the fur? - 10/30/18 07:40 AM

oooh that's nice. Who's your fur buyer?


Can I have her number?
Posted by: Yotarunner

Re: What price would it take for you to put up the fur? - 12/08/18 12:44 AM

Originally Posted By: MartyB
Originally Posted By: Yotarunner
Wow I'm amazed at the fluctuation between areas not to mention how little some guys are getting and still willing to put up. I don't put any up myself but friends are getting an avg of 100-130$ at auction. I don't have the facilities to put up myself so I sell whole and am getting an avg of $35.



Can you drive across the border to E. Montana with them?

I'll make em avg more than $35usd and you still wont have to skin one. smile

I have often wondered if I could do that. Thought it would suck to drive 5 hrs to the border to get turned away or worse get my dogs taken away.
Posted by: Kevin23

Re: What price would it take for you to put up the fur? - 01/02/19 01:20 AM

You can ship them in, why can't you drive them in? Maybe some state laws saying fur can't enter the states.

Here in Iowa we legally have to retrieve all furbearers (including coyotes), then wanton waste laws apply and you have to use the "usable hide". So if you don't want to deal with it just blow a big ol hole in them with the .243 and convince the warden that its not usable and you are golden. Probably still have to take them from public land, I don't hunt public so I don't know about that. Most private land coyote hunting around me is done for predator control and not many leave the spot they were dropped in.. minus the tail for a farmer bounty. I have someone that takes them from me whole, what he does with them I do not know. So the price would have to be pretty high for me to be skinning them. However I am currently toying with the idea of skinning a few and trying to tan them and make something cool in the spring.
Posted by: 22 Chuck

Re: What price would it take for you to put up the fur? - 05/24/19 05:26 PM

Originally Posted By: Yotarunner
Wow I'm amazed at the fluctuation between areas not to mention how little some guys are getting and still willing to put up. I don't put any up myself but friends are getting an avg of 100-130$ at auction. I don't have the facilities to put up myself so I sell whole and am getting an avg of $35.


It looks like you could get 3x that (minimum) if you skinned and sent to auction yourself.
Posted by: Brad Phillips

Re: What price would it take for you to put up the fur? - 05/24/19 05:45 PM

I put up everything, have for years. I think you either like it or you don't.
Posted by: marcus_robinson

Re: What price would it take for you to put up the fur? - 06/04/19 10:17 AM

I only sent in 3 coyotes to NAFA this year. Average of $82. $118, $48 and $80
Posted by: UncleHef-A.

Re: What price would it take for you to put up the fur? - 12/04/19 12:59 AM

Originally Posted By: Yotarunner
Wow I'm amazed at the fluctuation between areas not to mention how little some guys are getting and still willing to put up. I don't put any up myself but friends are getting an avg of 100-130$ at auction. I don't have the facilities to put up myself so I sell whole and am getting an avg of $35.


If your selling those nice Alberta dogs at 35 apiece, a good fur handler is coming out well.
Our western dogs other than those hi line dogs are not as silver and silky and those are sold for 35 in the round.

Hef-A
Posted by: erict

Re: What price would it take for you to put up the fur? - 12/04/19 09:13 PM

The wild fur market is likely to be in extreme flux for the forseeable future and I would be hesitant to expect fur prices to be what anyone would consider "great". One reason is the poor economies of China and Russia, who are the primary market for much of the furs. Another is the ongoing political correctness of not wearing fur. One significant other is the issue with NAFA as you can read (and weep) about HERE

Bobcat, coyote and some other furs may continue to fare well, but I think the best days are past us. I really can't see much demand for beaver or raccoon and would have a hard time taking those unless you are in it for the enjoyment or a nuisance control business.

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Posted by: UncleHef-A.

Re: What price would it take for you to put up the fur? - 12/05/19 01:25 PM

Yes a lot of flux. Trim fur, cats and coyotes still have a market for the time being. Other wild fur not so much. Ranching of fox and mink still really hurt those markets for wild co products.
Anti's are the major cause of death to all fur markets.

Hef-A
Posted by: Grotzen

Re: What price would it take for you to put up the fur? - 01/05/20 08:57 PM

My retired fur buyer puts up my coyotes and we split the returns. Marginal coarse furred coyotes for the most part.
Posted by: huntschool

Re: What price would it take for you to put up the fur? - 01/06/20 07:56 PM

Though I dont shoot a bunch down here in the bottom of Illinois I do get my share. When I was a kid growing up in New Jersey in the 50's-60's I put up fur from Red and grey fox and muskrats. It was good pocket money back then.

Our "winter" coyotes here never, never get any where near good enough for a buyer to even look at them and at 72 yo I am not skinning and prepping for just a few bucks. AS an example, it was about 50* here today and will likely stay that way for a while. No cold, no value in fur. Least not enough for me to even consider working a pelt.

Most of our shooting is done to reduce the predation on calves, fawns and other wildlife species. If we could eliminate the coyote scourge all together there would be a lot of happy farmers and hunters here. Course that will not happen.

Just some comments....
Posted by: K-22hornet.

Re: What price would it take for you to put up the fur? - 01/13/20 04:25 PM

" One reason is the poor economies of China and Russia, who are the primary market for much of the furs."

I find the Chinese market to be pretty good. I take my coyotes to a local Chinese restaraunt and the owner pays me for them.

I do NOT know what he does with the carcass after he skins them, though. I've asked him and his answers were evasive.
Posted by: SlickerThanSnot

Re: What price would it take for you to put up the fur? - 01/13/20 08:46 PM

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